Reports are hes not happy about switching positions. Why play a person in a position he is clearly not comfortable with and not happy to play. How can you possibly expect him to perform.
I love how many pessimistic know it alls are on this forum.. why does eveything have to get shot down before it gets a chance... half of you don't shit about football anyway you just want something to bitch about... the kid played corner before and if rex thinks he has a shot at handling it --he probably does.... corner back is a very demanding position and you have to be a terrific athlete...well he is probably one of the best we have ..they will put him on a 4th Wr if that and if he jumps the route and gets the ball in his hands who knows what he can do with it--- Everyone relax and realize we signed a RB this week and we are using a guy that was a star at one point as a Corner to be a versatile team player... just relax and lets see what happens.
Sorry....But there is a difference between being a "know it all" and those who feel this move is ill timed given the season in progress and the current CB situation. I'm tired of hearing he has played CB before. He played CB in freaking high school. High School does not = NFL. Maybe it will work and if it does then that's great. However I'm highly critical of the timing given the circumstances. I love how people say, "he won't be on the #1 he'll be on the #4". OK, that's all well and good, except #4 WR's aren't scrubs on this level. And secondly what if it's zone coverage and he isn't locked onto a guy man to man and the offense has a route that rolls a top receiver into his zone? This move DOES make sense, but IMO the timing is wrong. We signed a RB this week? You mean we took someone off a PS? Yeah, then we signed a RB. The green tinted glasses around here are out of control sometimes. I'm hardly pessimistic when it comes to the Jets. But come on guys, at least try and look at this objectively.
I have read the posts on this thread, and think i understand the basically two sides of the takes on moving McKnight. I get the impression that people are mixing a couple of considerations that should perhaps be looked at separately. The first is on the merits of the move itself. Here I tend to take a meh attitude. I agree with the notion that, on this level, this may merely about letting a fourth round pick who has not "earned" a set place in the RB rotation being moved to CB to see if he works out. Well, I am not so sure he has not been given a real chance to be in that RB rotation, but putting that aside for the moment... On this simple level it's neither an obviously illogical move or really all that big of one in any respect given McKnight's place on the depth chart. But I think that is not the only issue here. The real issue is how well the Jet FO has been doing with the roster, both in general and specifically at RB and CB. Well at CB they of course had Revis and Cro, as many recognized probably the best CB tandem in the league. But after that? Wilson remains an unproven player, imo. And he really shouldn't be that at this point. Bust? Not yet, but not a proven value as a first round pick, either. Then you move down to Lankster and Trufant. This is where it gets really shaky. The fact is that NFL teams need to have decent value in their CB bench players, since they see the field so often, or their D's will suffer significantly. And it is fair to say the Jets do not have decent value behind Wilson, or may well not have, if you prefer. Let's put it this way, is anyone here really impressed by Lankster and Trufant? Of course I expect the reflexive defenders of the Jet FO will answer what do you expect with all the money tied up in Revis and Cro? Well, I think the answer is still a decent bench is not too much to ask for. (But the state of contracts is not really here the point.) So into that mix, with Revis out, some money still available, I believe, what do the Jets do to have some warm body back in the CB role in case they (as they have) want to put four or even five cb's out there? Or more to the point run a regular rotation, and knowing their risk of injury has not gone away with Revis's? So you take a supposedly now failed RB from an already failing RB corps and move him, mid-season, to CB, and sign someone off a practice squad as an RB. Does anyone really think these moves solve the roster problems? I am not a homer enough to think so. Bottom line is the Jet FO will almost certainly have to make some other moves at RB, and probably CB, or they will pay for not doing so. So yea, I won't lose sleep over moving McKnight. But that move does nothing to improve my view of the Jet FO's handling of the roster.
The management and coaching of this franchise becomes more of a joke everyday. Let's put Tebow at LB! Have Sanchez return punts! Make Holmes a hot dog vendor! Ridiculous.
I think you are being too generous. Attention: Our 3rd string RB is being moved to 4th/5th string CB. We are not benching Cromartie in favor of McKnight. I just wanted to clear up the confusion. A lot of you are acting like Cro is being put on offense permanently. I'm pretty sure that isn't the case. If the Jets had Trufant and Lankster evaluated that poorly, I'm pretty sure Strickland would have been brought back.
http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2012/09/jets_links_joe_mcknight_to_pla.html Most articles have been leaving out this part. At least he's not completely stupid.
As I said previously, yes, all they did was move McKnight. But does that solve the issues at RB and CB? I think not. So what are they doing, or more to the point not doing? As for your last paragraph, I will leave the posture of assuming that the Jet organization always knows what it is doing and does not make mistakes, and therefore cannot be questioned, to the likes of you. I don't have the constitution for that sort of posture. But if it works for you...
Exactly, they should have done it a long time ago as he's been itching to get on the field anyway possible.
i guess you missed the game winning TD sailing through braylons hands in week 1 ... his hands are just as suspect as hills
Exactly, realistically how many snaps is McKnights going to take at CB if he's playing behind Cro, Wilson, Trufant and Lankster? How many of those are going to be obvious passing plays? How much man-to-man coverage is he going to be involved in? Probably use McKnight and a safety to double team someone if need be. Fact is the 49ers are a rushing team first and foremost. They are currently ranked 7th in rushing yards per game (and only .3 behind the 6th place team) and are ranked 24th in passing yards per game (and only .6 ahead of the 25th place team). It's not like they are putting McKnight on Megatron or some receiving leader. Their WR with the most yards is Crabtree and he's ranked at 37th in receiving yards and has no TDs. To put that in perspective he has less yards than Kerley, and Kerley has 2 TDs to his 0. Vernon Davis is deadly, but here's the thing: he won't be covering Davis or Crabtree. McKnight is going to get a limited number of snaps at CB, on those limited number of snaps a large percentage (if not vast majority) will be rushing plays, on the ones that are passing plays they will likely provide some additional safety support towards his side, on the very limited (if any) plays where they throw it McKnight's way he's not going to be covering an All Pro receiver. So everyone just needs to relax.
Nope I didn't miss it at all. Week 1 with a rookie QB and no chemistry. Should Braylon have caught that ball? Yes, definitely. But it's kind of silly to isolate one play as an argument that Braylon shouldn't be here. You cannot argue that Braylon had a very good year for us in 2010, was a key cog to our offense in 2009, and had a nice chemistry with Mark, opening things up for Holmes. I'm not suggesting Hill should be benched or shouldn't have been drafted. I'm simply saying that given Hill's current experience from college and issues which we knew he had heading in, that he should have been eased into action at the NFL level, putting him in a better position for success. Braylon would have been the perfect guy to make that happen. The last thing a rookie WR needs is to get a rep for being a guy who is notorious for "drops".
:lol: Okay, yeah, the timing is terrible. Revis just got hurt and we need CB depth. WHAT TERRIBLE TIME TO TRY TO INCREASE OUR DEPTH AT THE POSITION! THE NERVE OF THEM!!! Do I really need to post the over reaction pic again? You are acting like this is sudden, they've been giving McKnight reps at the position this year and last year. It's not like he's suddenly being moved with no knowledge whatsoever of how to play.
it appears we have fundamentally different perspectives on this. I see it as we just lost our best defensive player and need depth at the position. Pair that with our apparently poor RB depth. The Jets respond by replacing McKnight with a PS player from Houston and add "Depth" to the CB position by making a mid year switch. You apparently see it as ho hum homerific yay McKnight will give us the depth we need with nothing to back that up. And apparently have no issue with our RB depth either. Stop pretending like this was planned all along. The Jets gave McKnight a FEW practice reps up to this point, no game reps in preseason as a CB, and a few reps in game last year against NE. Take your head out of the sand.
You and I both know that the Jets FO isn't infallible. I don't think anyone here says that - I certainly do not. However, us as fans guessing at talent evaluation vs people that do it for a living, we have a 50-50 shot at getting it right which is most likely correct a lot less of the time than those working for an NFL team. Anyone can come into my job and guess at the choices I make and have a 50-50 shot at doing my job correctly as well. The issue at CB is depth, not talent. Revis, Cro, Wilson are arguably the best CB trio the NFL has ever seen. Comparing Wilson to McCourty is a legitimate but you have to take a step back an realize that McCourty's stats are inflated because most teams are playing from behind against the Pats. Cro is #1 CB on 24 teams in this league. That can be argued but considering PFF graded him at 8th best CB in the league last year, you'd be hard pressed to drop that 24 much lower. So Lankster and Trufant are the weak links and with Revis out - everyone takes a step forward. So is Strickland better or worse than our #3 & 4 CBs? I don't know - I am not a talent evaluator. I would say he is since he was playing as a #2 CB and nickle for 2009 & 2011 respectively. Obviously the talent evaluators at the NYJets seem to think otherwise. So I have to give them the nod since they do this for a living. RB was a failure from the beginning. I think they thought Greene would step up without having the TJ or LT shadow hanging around. Apparently he isn't stepping up so they failed. However, i thought the same thing. Time for a new RB.
Probably not. We'll get that same innovative attack of Tebow handing off right to Greene who hobbles slowly to the outside for a few steps before he is drilled 3 yards deep by half the 49ers defense.
