How coldhearted you are! Don't you know that he played all of last season injured when he didn't have to play since his contract was fully guaranteed? You don't think that should have guaranteed him the starting LT job this season even if he never took one snap in practice with the rest of the OL or in preseason action? /s
I wondered about that. It seems PFF has favorites and gives them high grades and other players who play better get lower grades. That's why I have little or no respect for PFF. When I share them it's just for points of discussion and reference. I've seen him struggle as well.
I know your being sarcastic but how could they have counted on a fat, lazy, immature and injury prone guy like Becton? I mean that's what the running narrative was here, no?
good call out on the play before the safety. What the hell is PFF thinking. I think you can say something like you said "Tippmann has been decent for a rookie playing out of position" without saying "ZOMG zero pressures given up!" when it is clearly not true
not so much favoritism they are just unqualified and creating bad data. PFF hires interns and/or low paid recent college grads to watch a player on every snap and grade their performance. It is a labor of love for these unqualified kids who often never laced up spikes in their entire life, yet their "score" makes it to Sunday Night Football because Collinsworth is in an investor. Its crazy
I think that fans are too quick to dismiss players who have had serious injuries. It's not without reason, but it's still over the top imo. I don't think that they should have "counted on" Becton to be the solution, but rather part of the solution. I don't think they should have just written him off. He's too talented and still too young. He worked his ass off following the 2nd surgery. He should have been in the discussion for LT with Brown and a 3rd player not named Mitchell or Turner. Brown was questionable because of his age, his poor play last season, and the length of time it takes to recover from rotator cuff surgery. Unless Saleh is clueless, they had to have known that Brown was going to miss all or most of TC. To count on him was stupid. That's the point as far as I'm concerned. I think JD should have added another starting quality OT and he did try with Orlando Brown. If Brown had signed here, the problem would have been solved. He would have been the starting LT, Becton could have competed for the backup LT and starting RT positions, and Duane Brown could have been allowed to fully recover from surgery and help if and when he could. As it is, with no Orlando Brown, once Becton showed that his knee was healthy, and it was just a matter of his learning to trust his knee and getting into playing shape, the only thing that made any sense was playing Becton exclusively at LT. If Saleh really thought that Mitchell or Turner could handle the LT position then he has no business being a HC as he can't evaluate talent for crap.
But didn't you hear people was poetic about Brown for playing hurt, even though he absolutely sucked last year? And what a bust Becton was? You can't find those guys now but there were plenty. They should have did everything they did in TC with Becton and then then named him the starter over Brown. Brown is a hasbeen.
I mean he was god awful in his first two games and has given up two sacks and a staggering six penalties in four games. The line has been better but Becton being better than Duane Brown isn’t exactly a reason to spike the football. Duane Brown was playing Wayne Hunter football.
I have a lot more optimism with this group and alignment than the Week 1 starters. I'm glad Becton is getting a chance at LT. He hasn't been great, but there's reason to believe he can keep getting better. I just hope they don't try to put Duane Brown back out there after he's eligible to return...
He's coming back off a two year injury and he's played fine. I'm not spiking shit but on the other hand he wasn't supposed to make it out of training camp.
That was the only one he allowed, they changed it to 1. Still what an impressive showing by Tipp so far.
No one was saying that after the Browns game and Saleh elevated him after that, admitting that he himself was surprised. Still though, I heard had Wes not gotten concussed, he would be the one starting over Tipp. That would have been a mistake. It sounds like it took the injuries to Brown and Wes for the CS to bench these veterans in favor of better young player, who helped stabilize the line. There should be a way to get the best players on the field without these unfortunate circumstances. Just seems to take a little long for this staff to put/keep on the bench underperforming veteran players over better youngsters.
Tipp appears to be learning at incredibly fast rate. He was a third stringer to start, but played really well at C towards the end of preseason. He was then switched to guard and struggled in preseason in the new position. However, after a few weeks, he is #6 overall guard by PFF and playing great. Really him replacing Brown in the starting lineup made an incredible difference. More that many, including myself, ever imagined.
He does seem to be learning and improving, but then again, I never thought he was the 3rd best C on the team in TC. I think that was just part of Saleh's making everyone earn it BS. He played well in preseason and I had no reason to believe that he wouldn't play well during the season once he got the opportunity. He was highly rated and the Jets took him in the draft for a reason. I would take PFF's rating of his being the #6 OG with a grain of salt. I think they have him giving up no pressures, but between here and the other two Jets sites where I read and post, I have seen quite a few posters say that they have seen him give up a couple of pressures. I know that I saw one. I don't focus on the OL when I watch the games, so I can't speak definitively about his play. Oh, and I know that you know differently, but Tippman didn't replace Brown. Becton replaced Brown, AVT replaced Becton and Tippman replaced AVT.
What does that mean? I said he replaced Brown in the starting lineup. That is a fact. I am very well aware how things were moved around and wanted Becton to move to LT well before that. But why the discontent all of the sudden?
But, but I thought that JD doesn't know how to draft O-lineman and he can't sign good free agent O-lineman and Saleh and his staff are incompetent coaches for O-lineman, etc, etc.
I thought you had made a typo and said Brown by accident. IMO it was a strange way to put it since they play different positions. When someone makes that statement, usually one player is replacing another at the same position.
