Maybe they should draft a couple of top guards in 2024. Trade down into the 2nd round and get two 2nd round picks and pick guards. Then move Tippman back to center. They might still need another decent tackle or 2 depending on the status of their current backups.
I honestly don't think the Jets OL is nearly as bad as people make it out to be. Is it great? Hardly. But it's a line you can win with. No line is going to look great when the QB doesn't get rid of the ball.
I don't think there has been too many complaints since Duane was out of the lineup, and Tippman added to the starting lineup in week 3. People were worried for the first two games when Duane was out there contributing to Rodgers' injury in week 1 and Zach's having no time in week 2. After the weak link was removed (I don't wish injury to anyone, but we are lucky Duane got hurt, because otherwise Saleh would still be playing him) and strong player in Tipp added, I agree with you, the line looked solid. We just need to hope the players hold up, since the depth is very shallow behind them.
IMO it definitely would be one of the 2 best ways to go, the other being draft a RT and an OG and moving AVT back to RG. The Jets think that AVT is a better OG than OT. That should help fix the OL once and for all, if they re-sign Becton. Of course if they don't re-sign Becton, Mitchell doesn't improve and they move AVT back to OG anyway, then they'll need two OTs. The Jets are likely to draft a DT next year to play beside Q. If so, I disagree with that. Move Clemons to DT and Jefferson, Clemons and Thomas are fine beside Q and alternating with Q. JFM can play there too.
Credit where credit is due. Tipp pick looks pretty awesome right now. And if you recall pretty much everyone loved that pick on the draft night. Especially in light of the fact that Schmitz, who is two years older and has lesser upside, was considered by many a top C, looks like total shit right now. Kudos to JD for that. With that said, I am not ready to proclaim JD as this great OLine builder just yet. Over last 3 years the line was mostly bad. And JD and Saleh did plan on Duane to be the starting LT this year. That backfired in a devastating way 4 plays into the season, with consequences for the entire year. Sure, it was also bad luck, but Duane had a lot to do with it, which we cannot simply sweep under the rug either. The way the current line played through the 2 games though is a good start, better late than never. Hopefully it can perform well this entire year. Then JD is going to have to address it again as 3 guys are FAs next year plus no depth.
Actually, you are mistaken that JD and Saleh planned on Duane Brown being the starter at LT this year. Their plan was that Orlando Brown would be the starter, but he opted to go with Cincinnati. JD knew that he wouldn't get one of the top 2-3 OTs where the Jets were picking even if he hadn't swapped picks with the Packers, and evidently neither the scouts nor JD were that high on the next two OTs taken (I've forgotten their names at the moment and don't have time right now to look them up). At that point, it was hope that D. Brown or Becton one would get healthy and stay that way. With Rodgers' ability to get the ball out so quickly, they may have thought that Turner or Mitchell would be able to hold down the RT spot, but if not, they knew that they had AVT as their Ace in the hole. They also probably figured that the odds were in their favor with all the injuries the OL has had the last two-three seasons. What they didn't account for was "Jets" and how things always seem to go for us.
I know they went after Orlando and he picked the Bengals, but it cannot be the plan to target a FA, who can sign anywhere, and then get caught with the pants down if they pick another team. Duane was the LT plan after Orlando said no. Duane did not have a guaranteed contract for 2023 and JD still paid him 10 mil annual cash for this year. He was the LT. They wanted Becton or Max at RT and Turner was the insurance. If all fails and shit hits the fan, AVT would move to RT, since they wanted him to be the All Pro guard originally. If you listen to Chris Long podcast with JD before season started, JD was asked what he was happy with or something like that, and he point out how he feels OLine is doing great with Duane back and practicing, and gushed over it. I can find this podcast if you want to hear for yourself. Unfortunately it worked out terrible. Shit hit the fan, and we had to move 3 players to the positions originally not planned. And it actually worked, so I am very happy about that. But it was not the original plan, because Duane at LT was a huge mistake, and with our luck we paid dearly for it. Hopefully going forward though we stay healthy and still can salvage the season with the current configuration.
week 1-2 the jets o-line was bottom 5 week 3 (after the change) we were slightly below average week 4 we were above average I think with this lineup we can have an o-line better then most. it's not elite but even being the 12-14th best o-line is good enough
I agree that Duane Brown was the plan AFTER Orlando Brown turned them down, but they wouldn't have gone after Orlando Brown if their plan wasn't for him to be the LT. I also agree that Duane Brown was a huge mistake. If you'll recall, back in TC, I was saying that it was a mistake, that Becton should have been getting the snaps at LT, not Mitchell or Turner, and that they shouldn't have been counting on Duane Brown. As far as our paying dearly, I know this may seem like heresy, but if Zach builds on the KC game, develops, and leads us to the playoffs, it could be a blessing in disguise, as we will be able to re-sign/extend Zach and have Rodgers back. We'll be set at QB, and know that our future is secure at QB.
