Kyle Wilson working out with Revis

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  1. A-11 Jets

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    I'm not worried about Kdub, and look forward to seeing him play next year.

    Kyle will be fine, it sounds like he is putting in the work and I do not question the talent. He did not get much playing time last year and the things he needs to work on seem correctable. That is not always the case. He was a first round pick for a reason...

    Cromartie may be better now, but I believe Wilson might surprise some of you, hopefully as soon as next year. Could even step up in the return game. With all this talk of Kerley going on, I didn't want you to forget that Kyle was "more-than-serviceable" on returns, and outside coverage in college. On the returns, blitz's, and coverages he did get with the Jets it wasn't like he was out of position, just didn't seal the deal. If/when things click for him at the next level, all will be good.

    Cromartie is an athletic specimen, and probally underappreciated by many for what he's done for the Jets. But I am really pulling for Kyle, because he is a physical player.
     
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  2. Spike_D

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    I agree here ... also hoping Pool is resigned, because i think he finally started to get comfortable in the system towards the end of the year. Especially if the preseason is cut short, having someone on the field who knows whats going on is going to be huge.
     
  3. Coach K

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    the sheer idiocy in the offseason never fails.

    newsflash: Cromartie is good. not everyone is Revis. your spoiled, get over it.

    this just in: Wilson has only played 1 damn year in a man coverage scheme most vets have trouble playing.
     
  4. AndTheHomeOfTheJets

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    Good point about Leonhard coming back. I think some people forgot about him after he got injured. Yeah, he's undersized, but boy, does he play with heart. And he's a pretty good punt returner as well. I still would like to have Cro for a few more years while Wilson develops, and I personally believe he will be the first to sign a contract with the Jets between himself, Braylon, and Santonio.

    Apparently Cris Collinsworth thinks football won't resume until November. I'm going apeshit now that there's no football. I can't imagine what I'll be like come November if football isn't happening.
     
  5. MadBacker Prime

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    I would be livid, at least the NFL did one smart thing in scheduling all the divisional games later in the year.
     
  6. HardHitta

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    Working with Revis will only make him better. Im expecting a really good sophmore season from wilson.
     
  7. kylepicklehead

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    Good news that Kyle is working out with Darrelle. The kid has to learn from the BEST to be the best.

    I wish Cromartie was down in Arizona working out with Darrelle so that he could get some tips and pointers from his as well, but apparently-- According to Cro's Twitter, he has the "Best Trainer there is."
     
  8. Coach K

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    maybe Cro doesnt want to be around Geiger. that is enough reason to not go.

    and Cromartie is a good corner. training with Darelle Revis doesnt make you Darelle Revis.

    Cromartie wont become a tackling machine his 6th year in the league.

    all we need is Revis to teach Wilson how to play like he (wilson has already shown coverage skills) is except with his head turned once the ball leaves the QB's hand
     
  9. MadBacker Prime

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    Cromartie is in good hands with the elite trainers he's working with. He's starting his MMA training this week. I'm excited about that because that should make him more physical and some extra hitting power, specifically from the legs.
     
  10. Steve032

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    MMA is great for football players. You work so many different muscles that you really can't any other way. I always remembered that wrestling practice started the day after football ended (usually a week before if we made it deep into the playoffs) and I was completely gassed after 1/2 the wrestling practice, as were all of the other football players. It will get you in the best shape possible
     
  11. bibigon

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    Yes and no.

    Sure you work some muscles you otherwise wouldn't. But if a football player won't work those muscles during football drills, then those muscles are probably pretty unlikely to be used during football either. The goal isn't to be in the best shape possible - it's to be in the best football shape possible...
     
  12. vilmatic

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    It's like REx said - last year he was snakebit. It's also like KDub said, this is a big year for him. Even REvis wasn't Revis Christ in year two, but we're going to get a better sense of the REAL KDub this year, whether that's as good as we all hope or as bad as we all saw last year
     
  13. Rockefella

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    Nice article, good to hear the almighty has taken the disciple under his wing.

    Also, this was one of the comments on the article: BlackDynamiteNYC

    HOMEBOI GOT PAIDD fuck that shit
     
  14. surviveone

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    Kyle Wilson hasn't exactly been jotting down names and scribbling them on a notepad for future reference. Still, don't think for a second that the Jets cornerback isn't aware of the doubters. The ones who wonder if he truly has all the tools to become a solid NFL player. The ones questioning whether he's worthy of his status as a first-round draft pick.

    Wilson had an up-and-down rookie season in 2010. He began as the Jets' top nickel back, but after struggling with penalties and coverage, he found himself dropping on the depth chart. Then he had a slow climb back at the end of the season, though it did little to quiet the skeptics.

    "That stays with you the whole offseason, so I continue to work," Wilson told Newsday Thursday from Scottsdale, Ariz. "I hear everybody. People want to bash me or talk negatively about me and really don't know anything about me or how I work, don't know too much about me.

    "But negative things, obviously that's a part of the stuff that fuels me, and I strive to be great. That's really what I'm here in the offseason doing, what I've been working on and what drives me."

    That's part of the reason Wilson flew out earlier this week. He's working out with All-Pro cornerback Darrelle Revis, a commitment his teammate made clear he wanted after the Jets' loss to the Steelers in the AFC Championship Game.

    "He was like, 'This ain't gonna happen again,' " Wilson said. "He was like, 'Y'all are coming out to work with me.' "

    Wilson has been doing just that, studying the way Revis goes about his business. He's trying to include some of the things Revis does so well -- such as his fine-tuned approach to checking receivers as they come off the line of scrimmage -- into his own style.

    "I like it, just working out with him, competing with him and just going over stuff and seeing how he uses things," Wilson said. "Working out with the best, I don't think you can beat that."

    Wilson also has spent time working out with Browns defensive back Mike Adams, a good friend of his who's entering his eighth season. They put in nearly three hours of training every time they hooked up, and Adams schooled him on a variety of things.

    The purpose is to ensure there's no repeat of a roller-coaster rookie year that admittedly took its toll.

    "It was tough," Wilson said. "It was tough. There was nothing I could really do . . . So me speaking negatively or pouting or doing anything to not help the team positively wasn't an option. That's not me. I just kind of had to roll with it.

    "It was new territory. But overall, I think everything happened for a reason and I just took it as a learning experience."

    It's an experience he plans to ace with a bounce-back campaign.

    "Whatever it takes," Wilson said. "Last year was last year. But this year, I'm going to make it a point that it's going to be different."

    Thats the Newsday article
     
  15. Doogstein

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    That article gave me wood. Can't fucking wait for the season to start.
     
  16. Steve032

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    I know football shape and MMA shape (or any other sport) are different and agree to an extent, but Cromartie will benefit from working those muscles that you really don't/can't work out in the gym. He needs to be more physical on both the LOS and with tackling, and these workouts with definitely benefit him. Our football coach was original against football players playing other sports, since he wanted everybody to focus on just football and also reduce injury risk from other sports. However, once he saw that 3 of his starting linebackers were also wrestlers, he started encouraging the rest of the team to wrestle. He would always comment on how we were the best tacklers on the team.

    You can practice form tackling all you want, but 80-90% of tackles are not going to be head to head collisions. You have to learn to take down someone anyway you can.
     
  17. surviveone

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    Okay, so you don’t believe in Kyle Wilson. *Guess what? *He doesn’t care. *He’s got other things on his mind.

    Chapter 1: The Curious Case of Kyle Wilson
    Over the past few weeks, one topic that I’ve grown connected to is the progress of second year CB Kyle Wilson. *I really wanted to know where he was at this point in the off-season, physically, but*more so mentally. *Well, thanks to the wonders of social media, I’ve been able to contact Kyle about his mindset and what he’s thinking going in to year two of the “New” New York Jets. *I came away believing in one thing: Kyle Wilson. *Let me clarify, I’ve always been a fan of Kyle Wilson, but now I’m a believer in Kyle Wilson.
    Regular season opener. *Monday Night Football. *Opening a new stadium. *Rex Ryan is your coach. *Yes, the Jets lost in a*heart breaker*but in trying to think about Kyle Wilson’s mindset and*feelings going into the game, it’s impossible, only he can. *”Opening up against the Ravens was an intense atmosphere. It was dark and raining for part of the game and the excitement and elements set the tone for a very physical competition,” Wilson said. *”I felt good going into the game. *I was prepared, yet anxious for my first regular season game. *I had been waiting for that moment my whole life and it was finally there.**I fought my hardest and played the best I could.” *Wilson finished with 3 tackles and 2 passes defended. *The Ravens passed for 248 yards and 0 touchdowns. *65 of Anquan Boldin’s 110 yards came on two passes where Wilson defended, not ideal, but Wilson didn’t give up and he showed great instincts in the game.
    Now, being a rookie in the NFL can’t be easy, but learning Rex Ryan’s defense can be downright scary. *I asked Wilson if he had any complications in learning it. *He said, “I had to soak in a lot, but I did pay attention to everything. *Learning multiple positions and learning new positions isn’t easy, but I did my best. *I just had to work on the new techniques of playing inside and other than that, just learning more positions. *As I found out, I could be playing one position this week, another position the following week, or even multiple positions that week. *In some instances the techniques or schemes can be complimentary or direct opposites of what was previously learned.**So, there was never just learning one position and after all of that, it’s a matter of finding comfort and confidence in your role. *Being in and out of the line up was tough, but I will always keep fighting to be at my best.”
    Translation: Wilson has his head on straight. *He knows what it takes to be a professional football player and maybe even more importantly, a great teammate. Wilson could have complained and started some fires but he didn’t. *It was tough but Wilson has been resilient before. *Coming out of high school, he struggled to gain national attention as a college football recruit. *According to Rivals.com, he picked Boise State over colleges such as Delaware and Rutgers University. *Not exactly the ideal NFL proving grounds but I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that Wilson has love and respect for the places that did give him the opportunity to play.


    Chapter 2: Off-Season? *What Off-Season?
    Fast-forward to year number two. *Another off-season just like last year? *Not so fast says Wilson. *In a year, with a lockout, Wilson obviously hasn’t seen this type of off-season and you can’t compare it to his rookie year, he was too busy. *”Well, last year there was no offseason,” said Wilson. *”I started training for my Senior Bowl five days after playing in my last college game (Fiesta Bowl). *Immediately following the Senior Bowl I began training for the Combine and then my Pro Day. *Then the draft came, followed by mini camps which led straight into the season. *So when the season was over, I took a well needed vacation. I cleared my head and started building my foundation for next year. *I realized you can’t go hard all the time. *It’s about peaking at the right moment.**I hear from all the veterans that there won’t be another offseason like this so I guess I really don’t know what a typical offseason is like.”
    As of many of us know, Wilson worked out with Darrelle Revis in Arizona this off-season, but Wilson set the record straight with what has been passed through the media pipeline over the past month or so. *”Working out with Darrelle has been great. He’s at the top right now, which is where I aspire to be in my own way.” *Wilson continued, “I believe some people in the media are blowing things out of proportion. *It was great to compete with him, bond with him, and learn from him. *He is successful for things he has done and I am not trying to piggy-back off any of his accolades.
    What many did not know, including myself, is that Wilson has also been working with another veteran NFL DB. *Mike Adams, a defensive back for the Cleveland Browns who is also a New Jersey native. *”Many fail to mention the previous months I have been working out with Mike Adams,” Wilson commented. *”A multi-year veteran who has mentored me through my first year and took me under his wing this off-season.”
    Writer’s full disclosure: I can’t sit here and say I knew who Mike Adams was prior to Wilson mentioning him. *It rang a bell but that’s it. *Only after researching did I know who he was referring to.
    Wilson went on, “It somewhat bothers me and I would just like to reiterate that I have always made my own way. *My career is what I make of it and I never try to capitalize off the success of others.**I’m always seeking to gain advice and learn from those who have been through similar situations, but sometimes outsiders may misconstrue or misinterpret my actions.**As a professional, I take my craft very seriously and have been working my ass off long before training with Darrelle. *After bashing me all season long, some may want to cover a story because I went to Arizona to workout with one of my teammates who happens to be the best in the business right now.**It may make for a sensational story, but at the end of the day, I work hard every day to become a better player both mentally and physically.”

    Chapter 3: Focus + Consistency = Comfortable
    Wilson came close to an interception a few times last year, one that stuck out in my mind was the Steelers AFC Championship, he jumped a route and was in position for the pick but the ball sailed through his hands. *I asked him if there will be a sense of relief once he gets his first interception after coming so close to one last year. *”Yes I did, really close, but I will get one. *I have goals that I would like to attain, but my first is to get on the field. Until then, my focus is to play smarter by learning from last year and finding a steady role on the team starting somewhere. *I know being more consistent in my technique will lead to sacks, picks, and pass break-ups.”
    Many questions are being asked. *Inside or outside? *Can he play both positions?* Will he be more comfortable playing those positions? *Not a problem, according to Wilson. *”I will be more comfortable in general. Not saying it will be smooth sailing, but like I said earlier, I paid attention to everything. *How to practice, how practice affects games, what coaches are looking for, and how the coaches react in-game versus practice are all different. *Having some insight coming into the season, I know that this next year I am going to go out and play my game.”
    Wilson can do it, he has all the tools. *He just needs to go out there and set it in stone for his critics. *As Wilson put it so elegantly (yes, I said elegantly), “You’re either with me or against me. No struggle, no progress.**There isn’t much to talk about. *I’m simply focused on getting better and being my best. *That will never change.” *The man is focused. *He wants to start any way he can and he’s doing what he can do make sure he gets to that level. *That championship level that Rex Ryan demands his players play at.

    Chapter 4: Nostradamus?
    Wilson was understandably quiet and reserved when talking about impending free agent Antonio Cromartie and whether or not the Jet’s brass can keep him and Darrelle Revis under one roof. *”Not sure, I have nothing to do with management. Both players would help out the team so I would imagine they are trying to keep our unit intact.” *Fair enough. *I need to keep in mind this guy is fighting for a spot in the starting rotation. *I’m not saying he wishes Revis or Cromartie weren’t there, because Wilson needs one or both or them on his side. *In my opinion, Wilson is more physical than Cromartie but Revis is currently superior to both. *I believe Wilson can get into to Revis’ league and if Cromartie were to not resign. *I like Wilson on the outside, starting CB. Now, all know how brash and bold Rex Ryan can be. *You think Kyle Wilson would give you a prediction like Rex’s yearly Super Bowl prediction? *I asked him if he had any predictions going into the season. *Wilson responded, “I know the Jets are getting better. I got the Heat in 6 with Lebron as the Finals MVP.”
    I don’t know about all that Lebron and the Heat talk but as far as Kyle Wilson and the Jets go: Goosebumps, folks, goosebumps.


    http://jetsflightdeck.com/2011/06/1...clusive-kyle-wilson-sets-the-record-straight/
     
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    ^ gaahhh! MY EYES!!!


    EDIT: And for the record, Vince...I believe in Kyle. It was his rookie season last year, the real fans didn't expect him to be a superstar right off the bat. I can't wait to see what he can do this year. :)
     
  19. 4jetfans

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    I read all this and think why didnt Vernon have this passion. Good for Kyle I know he will be great next season.
     

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