Not sure what its gonna take to change Macc's MO but something has to get thru to him that buying retread talent and low end castoffs just isn't gonna work when the rest of the league makes the bigger investment in the OLine.
On the contrary my dear Falco, we have won the Superbowl and O'Brien has been smashed. Its only a matter of time before Darnold takes the big hit because of his "serviceable" Oline.
Lol half a century ago And my point is, you can't play that game. Anything and everything is possible. Of course he could get hit but he could also get hit 8 years from now from a shitty offensive line. Should we just keep benching him playing the hypothetical game that he could get hurt? If that's the case, we're watching the wrong sport. Yes the chances are higher right now, but those chances will bounce around his entire career. But you already knew all of this
To use a car analogy, would you drive during an ice storm? Of course not. The probability of getting into an accident are far higher than on dry roads. The same can be said for a Qb playing behind a serviceable (and I use the term advisedly) Oline. The probability of Darnold taking a big hit like Petty used to is far higher than waiting until a real substantial investment is made in upgrading the weakest unit on the team. While that upgrade is taking place, Let Darnold sit and learn from TB and/or McCown. Darnold's day will come. No need to rush it for the PR value. We've waited all these decades to get a FQB and now that we have one, to not invest in the OLine is criminal IMO.
No, you don't drive through an ice storm, you wait it out considering everything is likely closed in that ice storm. In this case, the games continue to be played and the league goes on, even if we have a shitty oline. And if I paid $30 million for those snow tires, I'd hope they'd stand up to that ice storm
And if I just bought a Lambo, I sure as hell would keep it in the garage during that ice storm and drive my old F-150 aka: McCown. I'm not saying Darnold is made of balsawood, but lets just give the kid a fighting chance to become a star Qb. No need to risk him or his future behind this level of talent on the Oline.
I understand your theory but your analogies keep falling short, hence why I believe he should play regardless of the oline. If you bought a lambo, you likely would never drive it in an ice storm, not just an ice storm the same year you bought it. Darnold can't sit the bench everytime the oline gets a little patchy. The chances of you crashing that lambo in an ice storm the first year you buy it, is the same chance you'd crash it in every ice storm thereafter.
While the O-line still concerns me gravely, Boomer did bring up an interesting point. He was saying that the effect of a good poised and prepared QB on an offensive line’s performance is underrated. Gave a story about when he came to the Jets the O-line had been performing terribly until he took it over. Then Jerry asked about the Andrew Luck situation and Boomer was making it sound like he blamed a lot of that on Luck himself for putting himself in harms way on the run a lot. Not sure I agree with Boomer (I often don’t) but an interesting thought nonetheless. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
A "little" patchy? You sir are a master of the understatement. Darnold can absolutely sit the bench until a marked improvement in the quality of the Oline has happened. There is no reason to risk his getting injured just to see how durable he is. What is this rush to start Darnold anyway? Is it the PR value? It couldn't possibly be that.. The jets are not a SB contender nor a playoff contender in 2018. They are a young rebuilding team implementing new systems on offense utilizing sketchy talent to protect a blue chip Qb prospect. The Jets risk nothing by redshirting Darnold at least the first half of the season. Let him sit next to Bates with a clipboard and learn more of the nuances of the game. In the meantime, Macc can go against his nature and actually invest real capital in the OLine.
Maybe IF and when he is fired down the road he will learn from this crazy line of thinking or maybe he will still think he is the smartest guy in the room and that everyone else has it wrong ?
I've mentioned this before. Sam's mobility may negate the poor offensive line play a bit. This isn't to say he won't have problems with protection but he should be able to escape some situations.
I am looking forward to seeing Darnold behind center and I want to see him for the next decade doing that. When Darnold does play want him and THE ENTIRE TEAM ready and anyone who thinks its wise to start Darnold behind " THIS O LINE " is out of their minds and if they are coaching or GM of the Jets and the start Darnold on week #1 they deserve all the heat they will get. It is my belief that when you assemble a line they need time to gel and play together so that they know each others tendencies, moves and they get their timing down to a science. I have heard O lineman and coaches interviewed on this very subject and they have varied but they say things like it takes a month or 6 weeks of actually game day experience ( not preseason and not just practices ) to actually get it all together and see what the line is made of.The other thing to consider is there is a new line coach with a totally different blocking scheme ! This line when fully healthy IMO was bad,,,but time will tell for sure about that. Now again IMO you take away Winters ( out at least the rest of the preseason ) and Beacham and it just got MUCH worse. Add to all this that we had little depth as far as backups and that ILanjana is out also and on IR , and I say lots of luck with this line and putting your future behind it right NOW is asking for What Eli Manning experienced from his line the past 2 years or worse yet ----speaking of luck, an Andrew Luck outcome. Let me be clear I worry about all of our QBs behind this line. It is not a question of " IF " one of our Qbs will be hurt but more like when and how badly. The running game will be another story for another day.
I don't envision our starting 5's O-Lineman being anywhere near as disastrous as the 'Sky is Falling' types of Jet fans who are in full on panic mode. If a 38 year old Josh McCown could survive behind this O-Line (but with Wesley Johnson as his Center) - I'm pretty sure that a fairly mobile QB with a great feel for the pocket in Sam Darnold will be, just fine. • We'll have Kelvin Beachum returning for his 2nd season as our starting LT (still only 29 years of age) and many here seem to forget and/or are just unaware that he played in 44 games for Pittsburgh and started 39 of them @ LT while protecting Ben Roethlisberger's blind side for the Steelers. Pittsburgh's front office then offered him a contract extension; and he declined and denied them. Beachum finished third in pass blocking efficiency behind only Andrew Whitworth and Joe Thomas back in 2014 and isn't quite the disaster Jet fans paint him out to be (although not our Franchise LT of the future) and currently healthy. • James Carpenter is returning after starting all 16 games last year and let's not forget he's a former 1st round pick and started 10 games for Seattle the year they won the Super Bowl. Definitely not the worst option to have @ Guard as now an 8th year veteran at only 29 years of age. • Brian Winters will also be returning @ Detroit as now a 6th year starter of an NFL veteran, and not a bad option to have at Guard. • We've also upgraded @ Center over Wesley Johnson (who was graded as 2017's lowest rated Center) in Spencer Long. He's no Nick Mangold but he was rated as one of the better Free Agent Centers and a massive upgraded over Wesley Johnson. • Combined with the fact that Brandon Shell gained 697 snaps and 12 starts of NFL experience as only a 2nd year player just last season and he should become much improved. He could have great potential at RT, and as was Damien Woody, this kid is absolutely massive @ 6'5/325 lbs. Our backups are a question marks, yes but who's aren't? But I highly doubt that this Jets starting O-Line will be anywhere near as catastrophic as some of our "sky is falling" resident Jet fans make them out to appear. This 2018 Jets Offensive Line has a chance to surprise a lot of people this year and I'm pulling for them to do so.
