Mets @ Phillies, 8/27-30

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  1. 3rdAnd15Draw

    3rdAnd15Draw Well-Known Member

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    why not wait till it's 10-5 willie. its hard to get mad at sele since he basically has an impossible role on the team. you can't pitch a guy once every 2-3 weeks and expect him to be able to come in and get outs.
     
  2. Boss Revis

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    how many bloops are gunna fall? how many bleeders are gunna get through?
     
  3. 3rdAnd15Draw

    3rdAnd15Draw Well-Known Member

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    Lots, when you have a bad pitcher on the mound with no ability to make batters swing and miss. You're basically hoping they hit the ball at someone.
     
  4. Timregan106

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    It's amazing how many 2 out rallies for multiple runs we've allowed this year.
     
  5. Yisman

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    he pitches every week and he's used as a long reliever. you think he'd pitch any better if he pitched 4 times a week as a setup man? Sele hasn't been an effective pitcher since 2001.
     
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    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    As much as Omar got credit for last year, he deserves blame for this year - the pitching staff of this team is a joke.
     
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    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    And the Mets get screwed once again by this absurd ballpark.
     
  8. MParty7441

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    So I'm wondering if the Mets lose today, if Pedro will pitch on Saturday for the REAL Mets.
     
  9. 3rdAnd15Draw

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    I'm just saying its an impossible job. You've got a pitcher that is so bad that he enters a game is when he's the absolutely only option and you expect him to be effective when he does come in? Not me. The guy(along with 1 or 2 others in the bullpen) shouldn't even be on the roster let alone pitching important innings, but that's on Omar, not the players themselves.
     
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    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    Is there even the slightest question that right now the Phils are a much better team than the Mets?
     
  11. Yisman

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    agreed. brian lawrence? aaron sele? mota? schoenweis?
     
  12. Yisman

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    no I don't ever expect Sele to be effective. He's terrible.

    [yeah, I know you're referring to the Mets' expectations]
     
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    Besides the first game these last 3 have all turned on an extremely lucky/fluky play that went the Phillies way.
     
  14. Timregan106

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    They're playing better right now and they're getting a hell of a lot luckier. I'm listening on Phils radio and even they are saying that everything is breaking the Phils way lately.

    2 bloops get them 2 runs, 2 shots get us 2 outs ... Just the way it goes sometimes, but I don't think they're much better than the Mets.
     
  15. Boss Revis

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    every ball has to be caught i guess??

    amazing
     
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    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    Don't forget Burgos for Bannister and Pelfrey as the guy brought up as the fifth starter before Lawrence.
     
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    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    Other than the one mistake by Howard on Beltran's dribbler, the Phils have not made a single fundamental mistake the entire series. The Mets (other than Wright), on the other hand, are playing the game like Little Leaguers. The play that just happened is just what I'm talking about - sure, it was a bad break that the relay throw hit the runner, but Beltran didn't have to butcher the ball in the OF. A better second baseman could have gotten that bloop hit. Sure, the Mets aren't getting the breaks, but they're also not playing like they deserve them either.
     
  18. Boss Revis

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    lol no chance green, gotay or defelice can get a hit off romero.

    game over, 2 game lead
     
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    seems like we get ahead 2-0 every count, but the pitchers come back every time...
     
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    dont let defelice hit
     

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