He is not involved at all. I mean Belichick is an advisor there too. They have a lot of former NFL/College players and coaches involved in some capacity for some specific items in the Company. I listened to numerous interviews by Spielman and Tanny. For this search it's two of them and that's it.
They are trying to compete with Collinsworth’s Pro Football Focus that provides analysis on player performance. They do a lot more than consulting the NY Jets. it’s likely Adam Gase has absolutely nothing to do with this, especially since he probably doesn’t have much to think of Woody Johnson himself
I am sure Tannabeaum doesn't think that highly of Woody either, the only thing they like about Woody is his money.
Just a friendly reminder of why I had a problem with it. Jesus Christ how could anyone have advocated for Tannenbaum and Spielman hiring our coach and GM. And out of sheer hilarity they did the same thing Woody did 5 times over already. And now here we are…. Again.
The alternative was for Woody to do it himself. So, the thinking was that no one can do worse. That thinking was overrated.
The 33rd team recently had a list of coaches that they believe are on the hot seat. And they had Glenn as one of them they hired Glenn consulting firms suck
You realize, of course, that you did not answer the question. You also did not say how the coach should have been replaced and offer no suggestion of how one should be replaced in the future. What is the magic answer?
Honestly, I blame all of this on fans like you. Bootlicking suck ups that constantly excuse absurd decisions made by this owner and organization with the mantra of “well what would you have them do” responses as if the Jets always did the best of what they could. Fuck off. For starters they could have at least invited Coen for an interview. McCarthy, Gruden, Kingsbury…. I mean for fucks sakes you sit there defending our 6th rookie HC former DC as if we had no choice. It’s idiot thinking like this that brings the karma this team deserves for thinking exactly like you.
I want Tanny to call his own number and come back as GM. The man had the balls to trade up twice in the same draft to get us Revis and Harris.
I'm defending no one - and you can prove that for yourself by reading everything I've posted here for over a dozen years. For the third time, what method should the Jets have used, or should use in the future to select a head coach? Perhaps you should stop by the big building in Florham Park and tell everybody there what they are doing wrong if you won't explain here. Tell them you know it's not their fault - that lies with people who have been fans of the team for sixty years or more. Ignorant whining jackass.
in another thread you talked about developing QBs and how the Jets don't use any technology to do so. But in threads like this you defend ownership. The development of QBs with technology requires investment and that investment must come from ownership. Johnson has it pretty easy he shares costs of a stadium, its been 25 years so he can't still be paying for his purchase of the team. The least he can do is invest in analytics and technology to improve the product on the field. But time and time again he goes cheap on the football stuff and focuses more on marketing. At the very least team president Hymie Elhai should be shown the door, but Woody is spending money defending him in lawsuits instead.
I believe I said I don't know what they are doing to coach a quarterback, but if it's anything special they're not talking about it; so my opinion is they are not. Why is there an assumption that the team is not willing to invest in state of the art development, or anything else for that matter? People get ideas in their head and run with them as if they were based on fact. I'm not defending anyone - I'm seriously asking what is left for the Jets to do in trying to get the right coach! I don't know anything about Hymie Elhai other than he's been around a long time. I don't know if he's a Woody Johnson sycophant or he's the tail that wags the dog. They tried to do it themselves a number of times. Then they hired a general headhunter firm. Then they hired a couple of NFL dinosaurs. This time around they hired guys more recently associated with the team and the league in general. Clearly none of it has been successful. So, what's the answer?
hire a team president with football experience/connections and let him pick the GM and coach. It has worked for the Chiefs, Packers, 49ers, and more. hymie elhai is an accountant with a law degree. he never played or coached or had success in football operations anywhere. He was on the trips to "court" Aaron Rodgers, what a sight that would've been. Elhai has only ever worked here and clearly we havent had any success. and now he's dealing with a sexual harassment lawsuit. It should be an easy firing. Guess which side Woody Johnson is going with though... hint, he's defending the executive with a big losing record -- as for your question about state-of-the-art investments in football technology, you said it yourself, if the Jets were doing that, they would be making it known
I have to go to Florham Park to voice my opinion? You defend this ownership team time and again, as @BrowningNagle pointed out. I have repeatedly stated that we need Offensive minded coaches with experience and listed 4, and your response as always is “go tell management if you’re ao smart”. Listen, you’re either Woody himself, a bootlicking friend of Woody’s, or you’re just an ignorant troll. So yes, you do deserve the misery this team creates, because fans as stupid and accepting of this nonsense as you are deserve the karma this team dishes out. How the fuck do you sit there saying that hiring Tannenbaum and crew was a good decision? How the fuck do you defend having our 6th completely inexperienced DC to coach this team after one abject failure after another? Do yourself a favor and punch yourself in the dick, and then do it again because clearly you’re just like Woody and not smart enough to learn the first time.
At this point, I think the formula they use is irrelevant. You can have the best plan in the world, but if your decision-making and execution are bottom-level, it doesn't matter what your plans were at all.
This is the problem We all know Woody is clueless and he is not the one to know a good coach from a moron The problem is not that Woody doesn’t know football, the problem is that Woody doesn’t know people This is why when he chooses someone to help him find a coach, he fucks that up from the jump…first it was Charley fucking Casserly from the 1980s, then it was Korn Ferry, then it was JD, then it was the 33rd Team. None of those choices were good ones, and so not surprisingly, they made terrible recommendations. But Woody is too stupid to realize it. So then what are the options? I do think we need someone who knows his shit in a kind of President of Football Operations type role…I don’t know if that is what we have Chris Spielman in now or not, but someone who’s been in the game and understands what is needed to run the entire operation and field a competitive team…guys like Parcells or Polian have done it from the GM chair, but neither of those guys are available. And honestly, I’m not sure who would be a good candidate for that seat… Maybe the NFL office can make some recommendations like when Pete Rowell put George Young in the Giants’ seat way back when… But until there is someone other than Woody making these kind of key decisions, we will continue to suck balls like we’ve done for most of his tenure. He’s a terrible owner not because he’s a bad person like a Snyder or something like that, I don’t know that he’s super cheap as we’ve doled out large contracts, to me he’s a bad owner because he is just so stupid and clueless and has zero people skills…he does not know how to identify talent. He doesn’t necessarily need to know football to be a good owner, but he does need to know enough about people to find good leaders and knowledge guys in the right seats, and that is where he has failed consistently EVERY SINGLE TIME.
This is where I'm at too. Woody's comments today are just further evidence that he's truly too dumb to ever get it right other than by accident. He is completely incapable of strategic thought or nuance. Just look at his comments on Breece today: More from Woody Johnson: After signing Gardner and Wilson to contract extensions, what about Breece Hall? "I'm not going to speculate on Breece, but I think it's very important we signed the other two guys. Yeah, they're great talents and I've been around them for a while and they're way up there." This is so clearly a thinly veiled dig at Breece. It's just idiotic to say something like this and possibly negatively impact Breece's trade value. If Woody had half a brain he'd have lavished praise upon Breece no matter what the organization's plans are for him. We'd unironically be in much better hands if Brick ran the whole show. He's probably at least still capable of learning new things unlike Woody. Woody never learns the correct lesson from mistakes.
