Mo Wilk Will Report to Minicamp

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  1. Turbocharged23

    Turbocharged23 Well-Known Member

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    People said the same thing about cromartie and Harris before we saw their contracts. Nobody is taking a discount to play for the jets. It doesn't matter how much they are getting paid now and if they are set for life. Not Mo, not revis, nobody.
     
  2. JetsVilma28

    JetsVilma28 Well-Known Member

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    Revis would disagree.

    If you know your worth, you are not worried about competition.

    Williams may turn into HOF talent. Right now, Wilk is the better NFL player. The Jets need a healthy Mohammad Wilkerson on the field. Holding out would certainly place pressure on Jets FO; and the New York and NFL media would have a field day with this story. Distractions abound for the New York Jets. Forget a $70k signing bonus and force the hand on the Jets FO to pay top $ like the $60m Jordan is earning.

    I think Greenbeanz is right, 'they may have quietly made progress'. I also think Mo is a unique player that he will take less than he is worth to remain a member of the Jets. I think he likes the fit here, likes his fellow teammates, coaching staff and being close to home. I think he is comfortable with all the surroundings, and now just wants a competitive type salary he deserves.

    #96 not holding out says a lot about his character. I really don't think the $70k has much to do with this decision. I think he loves the game of football and that he wants to be on the field. I think he wants the contract situation to go away and he wants to earn fair compensation. Mo is proving through all of this that he is a football player/team player first, not a mercenary.
     
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  3. JetsVilma28

    JetsVilma28 Well-Known Member

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    Definitely not Revis lol We know Revis only plays for the money.

    I don't think every NFL player is as hung up on money as you think. I think some unique players, play for fair compensation; for the right situation. If the situation/circumstances make sense.
     
  4. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    He is not healthy right per Twitter. He is claiming turf toe.
    Rich Cimini ‏@RichCimini 2h2 hours ago
    Mo Wilkerson says turf toe still lingering, not sure if he'll take part in all drills. #nyj
    :mad:
     
  5. TurkJetFan

    TurkJetFan Well-Known Member

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    except, Mo Wilk isn't Revis and the situation isn't remotely comparable.
     
  6. JetsVilma28

    JetsVilma28 Well-Known Member

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    Youre right. Wilk is 25 and has a longer NFL future ahead of him.
     
  7. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Hey, 'bro' are you delusional? 78% of NFL players go broke or are under financial duress after leaving the NFL (within 2 years). 16% of players go bankrupt within 12 months of retirement.

    You go and live your life making $10 million a year for a decade then suddenly have an income of $0 when you're 35 with a $6 million home, a $100K for all of your friends and family, and have no income for the rest of your life.

    $1.5 million a year is a huge sum of money when you sign 5 year deal. That's $7.5 million less over the course of your lifetime to stay closer to your high school? Please, these guys aren't stupid.
     
  8. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Yes, but they generally have to say this. They kill all the teams leverage to trade them when they say they want to leave the franchise, and this in turn pisses franchises off into definitively not giving them a deal.

    He's going to say all the right things and be the model citizen; you never get a new contract when you create a shitstorm, you end up getting traded around the league because you're viewed as a malcontent.
     
  9. Axel3419

    Axel3419 Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you there, but the vast majority of players who go broke after the NFL should be blamed (in part) for poor financial planning. The NFL needs to do a better job of teaching basic financial decision-making to rookies in this league. No one should go broke after making a 1st round NFL rookie salary, even if you make no more money for the rest of your life (which is also ridiculous, since many NFL players can make money from speaking engagements, appearances, etc. for the rest of their life)
     
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  10. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Regardless of what the problem is or whose fault it is in them going broke, I was replying to the jabroni that said $1.5 million doesn't make or break a players decision because he's going to be set for the rest of his life.

    I tend to agree with you in that it's a bit ridiculous, but at the same time you and I have also never been paid $5-$9 million a year to play football at the age of 21. We would probably react the same and have the shiniest $700,000 car with big rims.
     
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  11. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    The league does plenty for rookie players.

    You can lead a horse to water...
     
  12. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    There's not much more the NFL can do. They impose required workshops and keynote speakers for the rookies, but it remains; you give a 21 year old star athlete who come from nothing a ton of money they're all going to make the same mistakes.

    As I said above I think a lot of us would make some of those mistakes too.
     
  13. BrowningNagle

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    I can't follow your argument. I am as sympathetic as anyone when it comes to these athletes post football but the "no income the rest of their life" part of your argument is just dumb. If* they have no income the rest of their lives, that's their fault. Plenty of people can parlay capital they made playing football into a career and all football does it help them in the business world post football not hurt them.
     
  14. TurkJetFan

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    False.

    Revis was the undisputed #1 player at his position at the time, at a glory position that puts up big numbers on the stat sheet and is recognized in that regard.

    Mo, is a player while good, in a system that does not support big stats and is at a position of a totally unset market outside of JJ Watt and Suh whom he doesn't remotely compare to.

    The situation is 100% not even comparable.
     
  15. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    I'm not providing them with sympathy I'm just talking about the reality of it. Regardless if you or I would do more with it to parlay us into a successful career post football doesn't matter. The majority of them don't.

    The fact of the matter is they need to make as much money as they can perhaps knowing that they will not have a career after football.

    Not to mention everyone acts like if they made $80 million by the time they were 30 that they would make the correct decisions in maintaining that money the rest of their lives. There's a reason the majority of lottery winners themselves end up broke. The NFL is really no different and there's a reason that people like Boomer, Marino, Phil Simms, and really all sports TV personalities continue to work after their career is over. It's not to say that they don't live a good life on their current salaries but they do have to work.

    It's human nature to be accustom to the upscale lifestyle you live for 15 years in the league and then suddenly you're going to become conservative and live in a 2 bedroom house in the suburbs? I don't feel bad for players but I do understand that they want to make as much money as possible to live the lifestyle they want to.
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    okay I dont disagree with that. I have no problems with the players trying to make every dime they can I thought you were making a different point, my bad
     
  17. JetsVilma28

    JetsVilma28 Well-Known Member

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    False. Corners have established a better market for their position. Defensive tackles have failed to establish the same.

    Football plays begin up front. The most impact is found in the trenches; where players are closest to the football. If Mo held out we would have a big hole to fill on the Dline.
     
  18. TNJet

    TNJet Well-Known Member

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    Maybe, the team is going to see how he produces in this new defense. You don't see Russell Wilson making a big fuss over his contract.
     
  19. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    man, Corey Liuget also just got over 10M per year.

    he hasn't been nearly as impactful as Wilk.
    3-4 Ends are getting paid this offseason. Wilk's price ain't gonna be cheap.
     
  20. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    Two things:

    Just because some other team on the other side of the Continent is willing to pay him more, doesn't mean he can't continue to play for the Jets for a very large, very respectable salary. To say a football player will drop everything to chase a dime isn't true. People are grounded by friends, family, and familiarity of their neighborhoods. It's a big job to uproot your family/kids etc and move somewhere new and many folks, football or not, just don't care to make that change if they are getting paid real good where they are.

    Second, all talks between Mo and the Jets are actually between the Jets and Mo's agent, who has Mo's ear and is paid a percentage of Mo's contract. Agents are notorious for demanding big bucks and pushing their clients to change teams if it means more money in their pockets. Agents aren't the ones that have to move. My biggest fear is even if Mo would be willing to stay here for a good contract his agent will talk circles around him and try and convince him to move on for a few more dollars.

    It takes a very mature player who knows exactly what he wants and TELLS his agent what to do. Is Mo 'this guy'? We'll find out.
     
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