NFL Roster Cuts

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  1. The Waterboy

    The Waterboy Well-Known Member

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    Might also be able to pick up some O-line help from the Niners. I think they have some talent there they won't be able to keep. Bykowski or Seymour maybe.
     
  2. Br4d

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    Johnson's 27 years old and he's been nothing but productive in his career. He's 6'2 210 lbs with ok speed. If he dropped into the Jets laps they'd have to think about it.

    I'm not sure the Jets are hurting as much at WR as the common perception suggests. They've got Decker, Kerley and Nelson and that's 3 NFL caliber receivers if only one with real star potential. Salas is a good 4th receiver in a WCO and he plays special teams. Saunders is a return man on special teams and it sounds like the Jets think they have found another returner in Hakim as well. This might be one of those cases where addition is subtraction instead. Lose a good special teams guy for another receiver who fits in the first group. Then try to figure out how to get all 4 players snaps on offense. This with Amaro already in the fold as a split out slot receiver option as well.

    If the Jets did wind up with Johnson it would probably cost David Nelson his job. It might cost Salas as well.
     
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    74 Well-Known Member

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    Kaep is not a particularly good passer so I don't take the fact that he and SJ aren't clicking as an indictment on SJ. Now it's not like Geno is Joe Montana either...
     
  4. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Johnson is much better than Nelson. I'd take that swap all day. Why would it cost 2 players a roster spot?
     
  5. Burnz

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    Isn't johnson a bad locker room guy
     
  6. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I'd dump Bohanon and carry 7 receivers if Johnson was signed.
     
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  7. Br4d

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    It might well cost Salas his space because the Jets would be more secure at WR with Decker, Johnson and Kerley as the main guys. They might decide to keep a better special teams player from a different base unit of the team. They might even decide to keep the 6th defensive lineman that they are afraid to expose to waivers at this point.

    In that scenario Salas might well be on waivers and destined for the PS unless somebody else took him.
     
  8. Br4d

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    Marty's WCO uses a FB to pass block and as an outlet receiver. His Eagles teams always had a FB or two kicking around the roster.
     
  9. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Yes, but that is a role that could easily be filled by Powell. Less effective in pass blocking, possibly, but much more effective in terms of an outlet receiver. As far as run blocking, that would be where the problems lie. A decision would have to be made between Sudfeld and Pantale, unless a decent Hback came free from another team during Final Cuts.
     
  10. Br4d

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    Powell is 5'11" 204. Bohanon is 6'1" 246.

    They can't play the same roles in the offense. Powell will get buried by a blitzing LB. Bohanon may well stand him up for the second or two necessary for Geno to get out of trouble.
     
  11. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Hence the possibility of picking up an Hback. Or you find a KR cornerback to replace Hakim and go with 6 receivers.
     
  12. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Stevie Johnson would replace Stephen Hill on the roster.

    Decker
    Stevie Johnson
    Kerley
    Nelson
    Salas
    Saunders

    Last 2 receivers can play special teams. I don't think the Jets would blink twice if Stevie were available at a good price. He's 2 yrs older then Salas. Stevie Johnson's ability to beat man coverage against pretty much any CB would be a huge asset here.
     
  13. Br4d

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    Right, but that solution adds another step in the process which at the moment would be cut Salas and keep Bohanon and not have to go looking for an H-back who might or might not become available.

    As to KR and Hakim, if the Jets think that Hakim will provide real value to them as a KR they'd be nuts to let him go at this point.
     
  14. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I just don't see a scenario where Salas gets cut, Rex was raving about him 2 days ago, not just giving lip service in support, he went on for 3 straight minutes talking about his versatility, ability on STs, accomplishments in college... Salas is staying.
     
  15. CJLang

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    I thought the Pats were nuts for letting him go. He was definitely better than a couple they kept.

    As far as Stevie Johnson goes. Everyone loves the guy until he decides at the worst possible moment of the game to do something incredibly stupid or juvenile and costs his team a win. Seen this play out more than once.
     
  16. Br4d

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    I think you are right, unless a good pro WR falls into the Jets laps. Then the only question becomes who goes to make room for him.

    BTW, I do not believe the Jets would pay highly for Stevie Johnson. He'd have to be willing to take a 2 year deal with not substantial cap hits in either year, maybe $3M-4M a year tops. Even then Idzik has proven capable of resisting the quick fix unless he saw real value in the deal.
     
  17. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Sounds like he'd fit right in with this team.
     
  18. BrowningNagle

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    We don't need Johnson. He does his own thing out there and has a real lack of focus. That's hard for a young QB to rely on. Plus like Lang said the guy has a real tendency to fall apart in big moments or blow games. I really think he was a major reason Buffalo would always fall apart over the years when they have been on the cusp of contending. You can't trust a guy like him in your corner because you never know what he's going to do out there.

    I definitely felt Buffalo got better at WR the day they traded him and I understand why he's not fitting in well in San Fran.. they run a very structured offense, he's not the type for that.

    One thing I like about the receivers Idzik has picked up: Decker, Nelson, Salas, is that they all run crisp routes and can at least be counted on. Especially Decker, he's a real professional. Nelson and Salas might be limited physically but they are polished at their craft. Kerley is like that too, although he wasn't an Idzik pick up, of course. Johnson is very much the opposite of them. He'd sooner joke around all week and then come up with plays on the fly, like street ball, then become a polished receiver. Lets not make it harder on Geno Smith than it already is and pass on him.
     
  19. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    But the potential of Johnson outweighs the negatives. I'd take that risk. You give him a decent contract with an out in case things don't work out.
     
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  20. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Let's not forget that Stevie Johnson is one of very very short list of WRs to have had some moderate success against Revis.
     

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