I tried reading that book, too but quit after a few chapters. The book was basically commissioned by the Jets via Tannenbaum. I got tired of his portrayal of everyone as great guys esp. Pettine. The rumor was that Pettine was Rex's key leak. Not sure if that was true. But let's not go overboard with Pettine because of his success so far. But he's done a great job.
I guess I could understand Reid and Gruden because of their track records. Carroll is an interesting one to give that control to. But either way, there would have to be a big time coach available that would come here in order to get that kind of pull. I don't see Gruden and Cowher caoching anytime soon so I dont know who that guy would be.
No.....hell no. He is average at best. I don't think he could ever out coach the better HC and win the big games.
you didn't read far enough into it. It wasn't all ass kissing like it was in the beginning . He laid out the conflicts between Rex and Pettine... some failings in both of their personalities. Why some players hated Pettine,etc.
Who ever we hire, his top qualities ought to be leadership, respected by players as opposed to liked by players, is strategic and possesses football smarts, is savvy enough to hire talented coaches on both sides of the ball, and has a keen eye for real talented players that can make a difference. We shouldn't give a rat ass if his initial background was defense, offense, special teams or water boy.
OK. Maybe I'll try to go back and try to finish it. Although I'm kind of tired of reading and thinking about the Jets 24/7. It's crazy don't you think.
with the exception of the gruden talk I like this post and agree. time the ny jets see reality and how the nfl has changed all the rules in favor of offense and get on board instead of fighting an old expired battle. we need ingenuity on offense and not the same old run the ball, run the ball, run the ball and pray for 3 and outs when officials have too much power over what happens in a game. and another reason to move away from a defensive guy is that we have personal right now to play either 3-4 or 4-3, so we don't need to hire a specific coach just to match the personal we assembled. a offensive name maybe worth a look-see might be Urban Meyer.....obviously if we can't get harbough....or a more established offensive mind.
Well, Pettine was a nobody here. He clearly was not a nobody in game prep. All the hacks ever said was that he was a possible leaker. But the book paints Rex as guy who flitted around the facility, telling stories, never going to offensive and special team meetings, occasionally making defensive suggestions, and then expecting the team to be able to do things during the game that they had not practiced during the week. Pettine came off very solid.
It is funny. The Collision Low Crossers book is not a hatchet job on Rex. It paints him as a good man with a big personality who really inspired loyalty in his people, but it also left you feeling that Rex was more bluster than substance on the football prep side. And he never disciplined people.
I think you need two guys. I also think that if you are going to focus on the D you still have to participate on the O. You cannot have two camps competing. That is an awful formula for success.
I have no doubts that he is basically a good man and very likeable. I don't despise him as a person. I despise the sorry job he has done as HC of the Jets. He was obviously never qualified to be a HC to begin with, and has now proven that. I can't imagine his ever getting hired as a HC again unless he can convince a GM that he has learned his lesson and changed and started holding players and his subordinate coaches accountable.
Maybe, but Jimmie Garrapolo he took from Idzik and will be a great NFL QB replacement after Brady...just watch . Garropollo broke all of Tony Romos records at college.
They haven't won a SB since BB did both jobs. Funny how that happened. It's almost like their defensive talent dropped off a cliff when he took over the GM decisions on that side of the ball. BB is supposedly a defensive genius, and coaching wise he probably is, but personnel wise, he's good, not great. Offensively, he found Gronk and what wide receivers? He helped develop Brady which is probably the greatest thing on his resume. If you go back, Brady was not an "elite" QB. He was a very good one. BB helped progress him into an all time great QB.
We need a new force coaching, period. We shouldn't just go about searching for a coach with our main question being "are you the exact opposite of Rex Ryan?" and then lazily assume that having the anti-rex will lead us to victory. thats illogical thinking based in bitterness, lord knows we can find a stern offensive mind to HC the team thats just as effective in the W-L column, because doing whatever rex didn't isn't the only basis for NFL success, no matter who much you didn't like his style or you've put an ideal type of coach on a pedestal. defensive mind or offensive mind, player coach or stern motivator, newbie HC or veteran looking for a new challenge. theres multiple ways to go about this, but we shouldn't limit ourselves to one specific type just because that type the fits the idea of and anti ryan or we hadn't had luck with some other coaching type several years ago. We would be wise to come into this without much of any thought to the past, because even if a HC shares some traits with one of the a failed HC's of yesteryear that doesn't mean they are the exact same person who will give the exact same results. We need to prioritize looking for a fresh and clear new direction and general identity that can win in todays NFL, regardless of whats come before. Don't reject somebody because they look a bit like somebody who coached us a decade or two ago, thats nonsense, so long as a coaches scheme is modern and/or innovative and their drive and leadership ever-present they are a candidate worth consideration. lets not toss anybody out on old regrets, they are not the people we've dealt with in the past. if we hire a defensive mind, thats fine, as long as they have a lot of valuable traits as a HC that can help us move forward.
He who ignores history and doesn't learn from it is doomed to repeat it. The Jets have had enough rookie HCs who were coordinators and who had never been a HC at any level. We've also had mostly former DCs as HCs. It's time for a change. We need an experienced HC and one who has been an offensive coach. There's a big difference in philosophical approach between the two and the offense has been ignored for too long.
I love jimmy Garrapolo as a prospect, but let's not get hasty. It's impossible to know whether he'll be a player or not.
lmaoooo! Does that go down? GM's can't fire the guy that hired him... so i hope rex knows how to scout GM's
