He demonstrated an ability to throw the ball against Justin fucking Rodgers starting for the Bills, ATL has 0 pass rush and their defense is ranked like 28th, besides those 2 games he's been absolute shit, this is undeniable. Last time I checked these guys are in the NFL so they are most definitely NFL calibre players. The game is clearly too fast for him and he's in over his head. Blame the OL and receivers all you want but he gets blitzed all day and does nothing about it, no checks, no OL adjustments to pick up the blitz, and no urgency. At this point in time he looks like he needs to go back to the College game and play in that simple air raid garbage.
Much worse cast of talent? Who's any different this year than last year? And your obviously forgetting his games last year. The Arizona game alone was worse than all of Genos. And you don't need all pros, but you do need good players. Name one team that's successful that has a bad line? There's not many of them. We don't even have a player that's even close to pro bowl level this year on offense.. Not even close.
Look at Ivorys stats before the Saints game where he averaged 7.7 yards a game and his total average went from 3.2 yards a carry to 4.0. Then against the Bills he was averaging around 2 yards per carry then had the 69 yard run and brought his average for the day all the way up to about 6 per carry. He ran for just over 100 yards vs the Patriots. About 60 yards after contact. But yeah, the line is doing great. Stop looking at the stats after the games and pay attention. It's been the same exact way since preseason when people were praising Kahlil Bell for scoring a couple TDs a game while averaging less than 3 yards a carry.
A rookie trying to make it work with Greg Salas and David Nelson wasnt a good idea. Ditto Brian Winters.
He had Shonn Greene as his running back, Chaz Schilens starting, Holmes was out for the whole season pretty much as well as Keller. You really want to say that last years talent wasn't worst than this years?
Why even compare? Last year and this year are both bottom level talent. Kerley is hurt...Holmes has been hurt. Winslow missed 4 games. They're playing with guys who were cut/practice squad earlier this season. Nelson, Winslow and the rest of these characters wont be on the team next year either.
Back when Powell was running really well Geno was one of the top QBs throwing the ball deep. Being on the top of the list for completions of 20+ yards and being one of the most accurate QBs throwing deep, leaving more space for Powell to run. Add to that the 149 yard day vs Buffalo and you see why he's where he's at. After week 4 he hasn't averaged more than 3.7 yards a game excluding against Buffalo where he ran it 5 times and almost half his yards came in one run. But again, the line is playing great.
It's real easy to pass against shit defenses...especially when there is no tape on you. That is WHY they are NFL defenses. Did you really think everyone was going to show Smith the same look week in and week out? That is the mental part of the game. That is the part Smith isn't remotely getting. If you are going to suck...suck all the way. Be decisive...pull the trigger...if it's wrong so be it...he's a rookie. You can SEE him thinking as he's playing. There are no instant reactions. What the hell is he doing in practice? Another good reason to start Simms...see how he fares when a few defenses have some tape on his ass. Does he adjust or does he pull a Smith? We don't know. Suffice it to say, the NY Jets have enough talent to be 5-6. With competent QB play should be more like 6 or 7 wins but hey...who's crying over spilt milk? Let's insert another QB in there to SEE if we can get some competent QB play. All I am pointing out is you can NOT point to the talent on this team as the reason for this QB to be shitting the bed as frequently a he does.
Blame everyone but the QB I get it, I'm done argueing at this point Geno has been officially named the starter for Sunday, all I can hope is he shows some competence on Sunday. We need him to succeed to even have hope for the 6th seed.
Your saying that since our guys on the line are in the NFL their NFL caliber, but Justin Rodgers and ATLs defense isn't? They are also in the NFL. Guess what though, most QBs attack the weak point once they find it. What did Brady do last night vs the Broncos after the 1st half when DRC got hurt? He threw against the rookie, their weakness. Does that make him a bad QB? No. I'm not saying that Geno is any good, but it's not fair to judge any QB when they have a team like this. What's the best way to slow down the game for a young QB? I would say getting a solid line in front of him to give him more time. The game won't slow down as long as he's running for his life.
Geno hasnt been playing well. The only skill position player I expect back out of this group next year is Ivory and Kerley. We just dont have NFL level talent here right now.
Our guys on the line aren't 3rd stringers starting because guys are injured like those other situations.
The talent on offense is terrible. Where in the NFL would David Nelson, Greg Salas, Stephen Hill be productive players?
How should Geno combat interior pressure from both sides? Where should he be stepping up? QB's struggle the most(even the best ones) when pressure is being brought through the interior. Winters has been dreadful, Colon not much better...and Mangold hasnt had a good year either.
Ok. He had Shonn Greene. He did average 3.9 yards a carry which is more than Powell and just .4 less than Ivory. Sanchez had Cumberland, who Geno also has. Keller played over half the season last year, and I would say that he is better than Winslow. Holmes has played 6 games this year, some in which he barely played and one in which he left early. Pretty much he hasn't been 100% this season. Holmes played 4 games last year and had 6 more catches than he has this year and he was 100% for Sanchez. Sanchez had Schillens, Geno had Gates, and David Nelson starting for him. Some would say that David Nelson is good, but what has he done other than those two 80 yard games? Also, Sanchez had a much better line. Brick last year played amazing allowing I believe 2 sacks the entire season. He allowed 2 sacks against Baltimore yesterday. Mark had Mangold playing much better than this year, Moore who was rated as one of the top best guards in the NFL last season and Slauson, who wasn't that good, but certainly better than Winters. Howard wasn't as good as this year, but he was definitely not that bad. Last but not least, Sanchez was a 4 year pro compared to Geno being a rookie. Like I've said many times, I'm not here to defend Geno. I could care less who starts as long as there's better results. I just find it ridiculous that you said that Sanchez had way less talent than Geno.
Yeah this too. In no way shape or form am I saying that either this year nor last years team had any talent. Both were completely talentless. All I'm saying is that both this year and last years offense is around the same talent level.
I think this offence is absolutely devoid of talent and should be gutted. Stephen Hill, David Nelson, Greg Salas, Willie Colon, Geno Smith......
Ivory was HURT early in the year. pre -Saints game he still averaged 4.3 against NE, 6.8 at Atl, 4 vs. Pitt. w/ him it has been all about health. Defenses KNOW we can't throw and yet we are still running- you don't think the OL helps?
