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  1. Scikotic

    Scikotic Banned

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    Joba didnt throw a fastball over 91 that inning. Is something wrong, is it too cold, or did he break the radar again?
     
  2. SixFeetDeep

    SixFeetDeep Red Hot Robbie Cano

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    why is the radar gun showing joba throw his fastball at 90, and his slider at 79?
     
  3. Scikotic

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    looks like its the radar gun...Jenks was only throwing 86.

    Fuck an A Posada!
     
  4. AMJets

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    According to the YES gun, Thome was blown away by an 83 MPH Hughes fastball.

    Their gun is awful.
     
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    Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck!
     
  6. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    hmmm what would this board be saying if joe torre didnt walk manny and now crede? did it make any sense in the world not to walk crede there? girardi seems to be trying to reinvent the wheel
     
  7. Scikotic

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    it was about 9 mph off. Twice they mentioned a speed of a pitch that was 9 mph slower according to the gun. In reality, Joba was hitting 94-99 consistantly
     
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    Well, add Farnsworth to that list too. He slipped and strained his elbow on his final pitch and will most likely be DLed tomorrow. This is last year all over.

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news...t_id=2585245&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy

    Now there is absolutely no one who could setup even if they wanted to start Chamberlain.
     
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    The plan was at midseason, if they do it sooner it'
    s a panic move based on the yopung guys in the rotation struggling.
     
  10. AlioTheFool

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    Argh! This is ridiculous. A lot of good all that conditioning did.

    I guess we're about to see Igawa? I think I'll concentrate on the draft this weekend and just avoid the Yankees. Of course, I know I won't ignore the Yankees. I'm a glutton for punishment.

    This sucks.
     
  11. Cappy

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    The original statement you made - that I disagreed with - wasn't a disagreement with now vs. midseason. (Moving him now would be a mistake, too, since he'd hit his innings limit in August.) The original statement was that they shouldn't move him to the rotation at all this year... that they should wait til next year.
     
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    so nobody wants to talk about not walking crede? Somoe interesting decisions girardi has made very early on here....not walking crede makes no sense
     
  13. AlioTheFool

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    Honestly, I had gone to sleep long before that. I stopped watching right after Hawkins came in.

    I'm fairly okay with risk taking. Obviously Manny vs. Moose is hard to justify, simply bacause Manny has pwned Moose for a few years now.

    In most other situations though, I'd be okay with a risk. Keep in mind, baseball's absolute best hitters are only going to be successful against you once out of every 3 attempts. The advantage lies with pitching.

    Yes, once of every three times you're going to get beat. That's the game though.
     
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    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    ^ man on seconod one oout in the 9th with crede batting. its more than just taking the risk of getting crede out. walking him sets up the double play......unless joba walks 2 more in the inning, theres only positive outcomes by walking crede. you must walk him there
     
  15. AlioTheFool

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    Maybe Girardi wanted to show he had faith in Joba? *shrug*

    I definitely see your point. I'll still accept a bit of risk taking over the Torre style any day.
     
  16. SixFeetDeep

    SixFeetDeep Red Hot Robbie Cano

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    we have to consider that crede was batting 8th, and that would bring us to :

    a) the 9 spot.

    b) one batter away from the top of the order.


    in my opinion, its a strategic toss-up, save the possibility of the double play.
     
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    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    fair enough sixfeet...but even if its a toss up, then the double play factor pushes you towards walking crede. as far as girardi showing confidence in joba, Im pretty sure joba knows everyone in yankeeland considers him as valuable a player as they have right now. and joba himself has no confidence issues
     
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    The way Joba's pitched in the big leagues, there's really no reason for him to intentionally walk anyone, especially some mediocre player like Joe Crede.
     
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    ^ you manage the game that youre in...he almost gave up a homerun in that inning...then gave up another well hit ball.....obviously hindsight is 20/20 for me now.....the right baseball decision is to walk the guy....as great as joba's been, im not sure you throw away the book yet just because hes on the mound.......and really, my original point was that if torre did the same thing I bet thered be more people pissed......and I couldnt stand torre, just sayin. Girardi has made some "interesting" decisions so far...the manny thing which was inexcusable, the kennedy in the rain thing, which was bizzare to say the least, and now this one. its only april 25th and Im getting the slightest bit nervous about girardi...I hope hes not a bobby valentine trying to reinvent the wheel.
     
  20. AlioTheFool

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    The Kennedy thing was genius. If Torre had done something like that, I'd have sung his praises for a long time after for trying it.
     

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