How many teams can have a record bad enough to get a top 3 pick and also not need a hot FQB? I just don't see it. It would have to be a surprise fall from grace for somebody like the Chiefs, who have traded their 1st next year and the Bills wind up on a low pick alongside their own low pick and control two of the QB slots in the draft. However they're never trading that pick in the division.
the browns just drafted kizer and could be worse. the titans picked 5 and could be worse and have marriota. the niners will take a QB next year for sure but there are 3 good ones. the bears could pick top 5 again and just drafted trub. the jags could move on from bortles and pick top 5 as well. So really us, jax, and SF. anyone else who may take a QB will be too good of a team to be picking ahead of us. here are the teams that picked top 10 and their likelyhood of wanting a QB 1) cleveland - low - just drafted kizer 2) SF - high - are as bad as us at the position 3) Chi - low - just drafted trub 4) jax - med - could move on from bortles 5) Tenn - low - have mariotta 6) NYJ - high - obvious reasons 7) LAC - Med - could be looking for rivers eventual replacement 8) Car - low - have cam newton 9) cincy - low - have andy dalton 10) Buff - med - could move on from taylor So 2 teams including us with a high chance 3 more teams with a decent chance 5 teams not very likely to do so 3 QBs are going top 10, mac needs to make sure we get one
If Bowles plays McCown, we aren't going to get the top pick because our defense is too good. But if he plays Hack, and Hack hasn't improved since last preseason, all bets are off.
You know that Toilet Bowles loves to play the old vets, don't you? There IS a reason no other NFL team has signed Fitz and Revis-- who Bowles refused to deactivate or bench. Yes, with old man McNown handing off to old man Forte behind a patchwork OL that could not block a bunch of old ladies, it sure looks bright this year. Nine picks by Mike Macin 2017 and NONE on the OL this year? But, boy, are we set at WR and Safety! Too bad NO QB on the jets can find a WR while on his back. Three drafts now for Mike Mac and and a grand total of TWO OL, and both in the 5th round. That is rebuilding?
Cleveland spending one of their 20 picks on a QB in the 2nd round will 100% not preclude them from drafting a QB next year if they're picking that high and the QB class ends up being as good as projected. Unless of course Kizer gets a chance and shows a ton of promise. I think Jax has more than enough talent to have a bounce-back year, so I think they'll have a better record than us. Same with the Chargers. Hopefully Goff plays well enough to at least preclude the Rams from looking at a QB in the first. Buffalo and Cincy are both dark horse teams to bottom out but I'd take Dalton or Tyrod 11 times out of 10 over Petty/McCown/Hack. At least until Hack proves everybody wrong. Overall I think it'll come down to us, SF and Cleveland. Best case scenario is they both perform better than expected and we bottom out. If Darnold, Rosen, or Allen come out and they're the real deal we could put ourselves in position to contend for the next 15 years if we can get one of them.
Your paragraph about Bowles likely being unable and/or UNWILLING to kick some ass in the locker room was spot on! He already announced this spring that he doesn't have a major problem with players being late for meetings. That silly grin of Bowles actually shows how clueless he is-what a message to send to your team, those on the team and those soon to be drafted or signed!
McGown has 2-22 record Not exactly a winner Our defense is solid But even the big boys get tired playing 3/4 of the game if there is no O to move the chains
Mccown is 2-22 over the last 5 years.This defense will likely have 2 rookies on the back end looking to blow a game or 2, suspect corners and probably no speed rush. If this team is not picking top 3 it wil be because hack, injuries to other teams or some silly bounces in a few games.
That track record is the reason why the Jets chose him to be a mentor to our young Qb's.. Nothing exemplifies success like consistent failure.
Also, in regards to the 2018 QB situation I would think that the 49ers would land Kirk Cousins. Would mean that the skins are looking for a FQB as well
I watch a lot of cowboys games cause my wife is a fan and watching rookies come in and have an impact like Elliot and Dak was pretty exciting. That's exactly what this fanbase needs. For some kids to show up and light the world on fire. If Hack came out of nowhere the excitement would be thru the roof. I want that as much as anyone but with that said I truly believe if we win a bunch of games this year (more than 4-5) we're setting our franchise back. Jets are never bad for the right drafts (or not bad enough).
We are definitely not as bad as people are saying we will be, but we have no QB, no OL, and our playmakers are very young and unproven particularly at the WR position. It is going to be hard to score points this year. I see 6 wins this year. I think our defense can be top notch but I am not so confident in Bowles coaching skills. We had arguably one of the best D-line's in the league last year and he made them look non-existent. I know the secondary didn't give them any time to create pressure but the whole defense looked amiss. It's scary to think we are drafting and basing our future around the schemes of Todd Bowles.
In a traditional sense..you are correct..teams are reaching on raw talent & if the QBs coming out in this upcoming draft are in that rare category...chances are those top teams won't be looking to move down no matter the compensation. There are acouple variables to consider however... 1. Maybe these high ceiling unpolished QBs no longer are reaches in today's NFL. The game is so pass driven & much of a given franchise's brand/marketing infrastructure is tied directly to having a great QB...It's like ace pitchers on steroids..Bottom line is if a QB has 2 out of 4 Measureables/Athleticism,/arm talent/Pocket mobility & nothing preventing the other aspects from falling into place..QB needy teams are gonna recklessly pounce. 2. Perhaps there is a possibility that a team like the Bears that already has a very young QB in place with a significant amount of resources already exhausted on that player..that they could be one of the teams ahead of the Jets. But then again..what better way for them to recoup their losses from the trade from this past weekend than pulling the same maneuver a year later.
Its not even really that people want the team to do well, (by that I mean get close to .500), but it just seems like the team isn't bad enough to go into full tank mode like everyone wants. I think the defense is too good for us to be a 2 win team. The big question is, can the shittyness of the offense offset our legit defense. The offense looks pretty shit so there is a chance, but if they don't play piss poor, the defense is going to win us games whether we like it or not.
I think that if these safeties play up to their pedigree then our play should be vastly improved. One of our major problems last season was broken coverages allowing huge plays. By my memory - those big plays were back breaking, momentum changing TD's. Eliminate those snafu's and it makes a big difference. Hackenberg/Petty can't possibly be worse than Fitzpatrick was last season... Right? Please be right Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk
The Jets have had great defenses for years and we still lost more than we won Philosophically you dont "win" on Defense over 16 games..this is what got this organization in trouble with a close to wholesale Offense neglect Yes In a Championship game with both Offenses being equal "Defense Wins Championships" But Adams and Mayes are not having pick sixes every play ..Williams is not recovering fumbles and running to the end zone. I think ya gotta get real here...more probably sucking wind after being out almost the entire game if your O does nothing Defense can keep a game close thats it imo Oh, one more factor : Bowles and Casey trying not to lose but screwing up plenty of games anyway..lol jmho
