Patience, everyone

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  1. Hemi

    Hemi Well-Known Member

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    Ive been waiting for 25 years.......
     
  2. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Wanna know why I have this grim outlook Puddin?? I've been watching this team, along with alot of other quality NFL games for a long, long time. After a while, you start to see patterns that develop. Some teams bottom out then come back. Some, like the Lions, go down and stay down.

    I've seen the 80's come and go. I've seen the 90's do the same. The only time I had any real hope for this team was the Year of the Mudbowl and 1998 with Parcells, VinnyT and Co. Parcells for the first time, had this team playing like a real NFL contender. Even when Vinny went down, Ray Lucas played over his head and kept us in games. Ray Lucas.....

    Moving right along, I watched Herm come in, talk the talk, but come up short and in the end, finagle his way out of here. Woody, perhaps trying to catch "lightning in a bottle", went with an first year DC and a Finance guy to take over the GM reigns. Both young, very talented, but evidently not quite up to the task of building a franchise in a relatively short period of time. For a long time now, I've watched Mangini and he always looks amazed that his team isn't performing up to his standards. I wonder just how long he's gonna try to be Belichek Jr. and finally become Mangini. We know we're not the Patriots but evidently he doesn't. Stubborn to a fault be that a good trait or bad, he certainly is.

    This is year 3 of the Mangini era. Exactly how long does it take to get a system in place? A better question might be this: Is this a system worth investing in given the players on hand..??? This team has once again, peaked too soon ('06) and now seems to be backsliding. We barely beat the dolphins who were 1-15 last year. Parcells has already planted the seeds of a winner there. They certainly won't be 1-15 this year and I stand by my assessment that they will overtake us in 2 years IF major adjustments aren't made on the roster, on the sidelines and in the FO/Ownership.

    Woody Johnson has to make this CS/FO accountable instead of endless passes, good wishes and platitudes rewarding mediocre play. Was getting Farve a PR stunt? I'm beginning to think it was. The man has high priced PSL's to sell and no starpower to sell to the public. The Jets have to win this year and right now, I just don't see that happening to the point of saying yeah, we're progressing under Mangini. Hell, it even appears that Mangini is still on a really steep learning curve. How else can you explain the personnel screwup of having to cut players to sign a punter then cut the punter you signed and resign the punter you just cut?

    This is just f'n rediculous Puddin. That's why I'm grim today and my outlook for this team in '08 isn't very pretty. I see another mediocre year with a light run at the end to tease the Fans but little else. I see a CS that tries to game plan like they're all graduates from Hogwarts then look on in astonishment as real CS's make adjustments and shuts us down for extended periods. I see our $140million dollar investment as basically "lipstick on a pig" when it comes to stops on 3rd down and running the ball.

    I'm just not feeling the Mangini magic Puddin..It is what it is and that ain't very pretty..
     
  3. mr nyjet

    mr nyjet Well-Known Member

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    sutton and mangini are NOT the ryan brothers- better start to worry!

    the bengals almost beat the giants on the road, and the cards are no gimme , either. warner and those receivers will light up the secondary if the defense doesn't start to justify the money spent on it.

    i can remember sad teams like cleveland coming into the stadium in past years and what everyone thoght were gimme games that turned into losses.
     
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  4. puddnhead

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    Hey ... hang in there. Hopefully you'll come in tomorrow and read this & be over it (a bit).

    My primary team (Packers) were probably the worst team in the league in the two decades between Bart Starr and Brett Favre (well, except for maybe Tampa). But the day does come. I know the Jets history seems bad to you, but for the Packers there was literally only ONE playoff appearance in 20 years (and that was the year they squeaked in on a .500 record playing scrubs during the strike year, then were one & out ... yippee).

    If it could happen for Green Bay -- known as the "Siberia of the NFL" as recently as 1991, where coaches threatened to trade their players to in order to get them in line -- then any team can come back to respectability. You think the Jets are woebegone? You have no idea how much worse it could be, as any Packer fan of a certian age can tell you. They literally went from being the worst team around for 20 years, to being the best team (measured by total W-L record) the following 16.
     
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