Yep. No Doubt. Are woes, currently, should be pointed squarely at the O-line. The O-line needs to pick it up.
In 2004 the Jets had everything you need to win a championship: 1. Strong offensive line that could pass protect and run block. 2. Strong defensive front seven used almost perfectly to cover their few weaknesses. 3. Strong mainstay runningback capable of taking 350 carries and performing at a high level. The defensive secondary was not strong, but that's not a hallmark of superbowl winners - certainly not something that the recent winners have been built around. The problem the Jets had that year was that they just could not consistently score against good defenses and the biggest component of that problem was that Chad didn't then, and except for 2002 never has, finished drives by consistently getting 7 points out of the redzone appearances. Here is where the Jet QB's who started for 3 seasons or longer rank in terms of offensive points scored in their seasons: Joe Namath - 7,5,3,2,3,2,11,14,26 Richard Todd - 22,18,13,9,3,19 Ken O'Brien - 7,11,14,6,26,19,11 Boomer Esiason - 21,25,30 Vinny Testaverde - 5,17,18 Chad Pennington - 15, 17,18 Chad has had 3 full seasons to lead a top 10 offense. He's had the NFL rushing leader, something that none of the people who came before him had. He's had as good an offensive line in 2002 and 2004 as any Jets QB has ever had. Joe Namath was a legend, so let's take him out of the equation. Richard Todd was not, and yet he lead two top 10 Jet offenses. Ken O'Brien was not and yet he lead 2 top 10 offenses. Vinny Testaverde was not and yet he lead one top 10 offense in his 3 seasons at the helm. Chad just is not suited to running a strong offense because as the field gets shorter his options are more and more constrained by the strength of his arm until they basically turn into: throw a low percentage pass and kick a field goal when it goes incomplete.
Yes because the opposing defense would not stack the box, subtracting 2-3 defenders for to play a potential pass due to KC ability to rifle the ball.
If we are 4 & 3 after the first 7 we probably make the playoffs. It wouldn't shock me at all to see this team 3 & 4 or 2 & 5 after the first 7 and if we win are next two 5 & 4 or 4 & 5 at the break seems about right. The only give me game in the first 7 should be Miami at home and the Fish always play us tight. Any one who thinks the Bills in Buffalo the Giants, Eagles or Bengals are any better than toss up games are fooling themselves. A 4 & 3 start would be fantastic with this schedule. I would think we are the likely dog in 5 of the first 7 maybe 6.
Our OL was getting beat by their 4 DL. How exactly were they stacking the line when their 4 guys were beating our 5? They weren't creeping their safeties up anymore than we were against them. The bottom line was that they were able to get pressure with 4 guys. We couldn't get pressure with 6 when we blitzed.
It doesn't matter. We now have a clear alternative. In two years time Michael Vick, and his cannon left arm will be an UFA......:lol:
If we're going to be a good team we need to win pretty much every toss up game we come across. You're never going to get a schedule full of losing teams.
The problem with this crap is its always start whoever. there was call to start Brooks Bollinger -- post after post. he is MAYBE a backup. So we understand that the back up is always the most popular guy -- start the young guy -- see what he has is not a plan for me. If Chad is terrible, fine, replace him. But remember -- it fails more than it succeeds.
We will definitely be the dog for New England, @Baltimore, @Buffalo, @Cincinnati. We might be the dog against Philadelphia. I expect us to be favored against Miami and break-even @Giants.
How could you possibly figure that out so far in advance? Nobody has any idea what will take place in Week 1 or any time after. It's all a guess. The bad teams now could be good by October and vise versa.
Just like last year we couldn't figure out the teams we played for the most part sucked so we pretended they were good after we beat them so we all think we have a SB run coming up.
Im so sick of people talking about how we beat the Vikes, Packers, Raiders and the Pats in the Mud bowl. We played in four games against teams that were over .500! Gimme a break.
this piqued my interest, so i looked it up....chad has 7, yes only 7, 300 yard games in his career...most of which came last season. i know 300 yard games arent a measure of big-time gamers, but that number seems increadibly low to me for a starting QB who has been in the league for a while. usually throwing for 300 yards is because you're behind, or just clicking insanely on offense. i like chad, but im torn as to whether or not he should be under center on 9/9. kellen looks good, admittedly its against back up players for the most part. but his throws are accurate, hes got a big gun hangin from his shoulder, and makes smart throws. i have no doubt that after week 2 there will be a lot of folks calling for chad to be replaced.
Pretended what? That makes no sense. You play who you play. We played New England and the Colts in the first four games last year, didn't beat them but played them well enough to gain something from it. We beat Tennessee in Week 1, they weren't very good. Had we played them in Week 12 they were a lot tougher. So how does anyone look at the schedule right now and know who is going to be favored or what will be a tough game in October, November or December? Nobody has any idea.
How many teams that you consider real good did the Jets beat last year? Looking at the schedule today, how many teams do we play this year that in your judgement are better than the agregate we played last year? You might be wrong on a couple but I'm guessing without a point spread you would do a lot better than 50% right. Maybe not you but you get the idea.
Here's my reasoning: Patriots. Give me a break, we'll be 3 pt dogs at best and probably closer to 7. @Ravens. Ditto. We're on the road against a team that won 12 games last year. 7 pts here, maybe up to 13 depending on week 1. Miami. 5-7 pt favorites even if the first two weeks went poorly. @Buffalo. 3 pt dogs, maybe more. The road team in the NFL is on average a 4.5 pt dog if the two teams are equal in talent. The Jets will be coming in 2-1 at best and probably more like 1-2. @Giants. Pick'em. The Giants really aren't that good and having home field advantage in this case just means having the Giants season tickets holders alternately booing the Jets and the Giants instead of the Jets season ticket holders doing that. Philadelphia. No clear idea here but if the Jets are 2-3 they aren't going to be getting points and 2-3 is the single most probable record at this point given what we know. @Cincinnati. Anywhere from 4.5 to 10 pt dogs depending on how the season has gone. Anybody who thinks the picture is rosier than that at this point knowing what we know is definitely wearing rosey glasses and probably drinking thunderbird...
You guys are certainly entitled to your opinions. I just think at this point in time, anything after about Week 2 and you have no idea. Someone goes down Week 1 a la Vinny, a rookie or new guy steps up out of nowhere, I just don't think you can look that far down the road. As far as who we beat last year, I don't think it has any bearing on anything for this year.
