Plax and Holmes (routerunning, effort)

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  1. gizmo253

    gizmo253 Member

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    I was thinking the same thing with the route because Plax cannot stretch the field anymore. But one thing i saw when watching the vid of the Pick 6 over and over was that it looked like Mark and Plax were not on the same page regarding the route. Honestly I believe it was supposed to be more of a curl, because as Plax went into his break sanchez threw it to his inside, Plax than proceeds to come out of his break and turns outside and up the field.

    Quite honestly I feel that this has ALOT to do with the fact that Plaxico is never on the field in practice. Weather the throw was a combination of making the correct read by the QB and WR, or just a simple route, its clear there was a miscommunication, and it most likely was on Plax's end.

    Believe me im not defending mark, because he does telegraph and stare the fuck out of his recievers, but i do think that many people dont realize how many interceptions have alot to do with who the QB is throwing the ball to, and if they run the correct route.
     
  2. PJ4Ever

    PJ4Ever Well-Known Member

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    Well, then, you my friend would be a horrendous receiver! Coverage often dictates where you go. You ever see Hakeem Nicks take any plays off while Cruz and Manningham get the ball? Nope. Holmes needs to stay disciplined in his routes and so does Plax.

    Holmes is way overrated (great #2, not a 1) and Plax is having a decent season, but should not be resigned.
     
  3. NJBeliever

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    When your receiver cannot read a defense and your offense allows him to dink and dunk, why go all out on every fly route?? Sanchez has completed ONE Pass of 40 yards on the season!!! He has only thrown 5 passes that have traveled 30 yards through the air on the season. It's unbelievable how conservative this offense is. Everyone was ripping Tebow last week, but at least the kid isn't scared to go deep.

    And as far as Holmes being overrated, he was top 10 in yards during the second half of last season (and remember he missed the firs 4 bc of the suspension), so what more should he be doing? Calvin Johnson would have the same numbers in this offense with this QB? And then he'd be ticked because he'd be wondering why we brought such a talented receiver like him here to run 5 yard slants all day.
     
  4. AbdulSalam

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    the offensive line has been a failure. sanchez doesn't have time to throw the deep ball because he has defenders hanging off him or in his face all the time. the OL is a failure and that is the root of why this offense has struggled both on the ground and in the air.
     
  5. rdowns

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    I think that contributes to it but our OL sucks, plain and simple. Sanchez is getting beat up.
     
  6. RochesterJet

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    BUll SHit....Be a fucking PRO. I could think of several Million reasons both of these clows should give 100% on every play. Per-Madona's
     
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  8. tcrock

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    Sanchez and the O line have their obvious deficiencies, but I do agree that Plax and Holmes are problems with not only route running, but also their frequent demonstration of frustration..Holmes in particular. There's no excuse for these guys not selling their routes regardless of whether they are being targeted or not, and they are both guilty of that. and there's no excuse for Holmes to be throwing his hands up whenever Mark misses him.
     
  9. BleednGreen

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    I wouldn't go hard if I had to run these routes either :rofl:
     
  10. The_W

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    The more I look at this gif, the more I wonder why was Mark in such a hurry to throw the ball away. I understand that it is designed as a timing route to hit the receiver when he comes out of his break, but he must see the defense drop 8 in coverage and see Kerley is both short of the sticks and covered.

    As it can be seen 2 of the three Pats rushers are pancaked by our oline and Hunter seems to have control over his assigned rusher Anderson, so why doesn't Mark hold on to the ball and let his receivers to improvise a little bit?
    It's a question we'll never get an answer for, but it's just something that makes me scratch my head...
     
  11. Levenhagen

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    what? why would he do that
    the play is specifically made to reach the first down, he knows it has to a quick pass and he expects the receiver will be in the first down line.
    All the receivers know that its a quick pass, so by the time they notice that they arent in first down range and try to do something someone probably sacked sanchez already
     
  12. The_W

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    Ever seen Ben Roethlisberger play? Or do you remember Sanchez in last years game against the Browns?

    Again, not one of the receivers is beyond the sticks and everyone is covered. I'm just saying that why not try to make something out of it. Like you see, it's a dead play from the get go.

    I don't give a shit if Sanchez is sacked for a loss. Punting from the 25 as opposed from the 35 is basically the same thing. The game wouldn't be won or lost there.
     
  13. Levenhagen

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    well, i guess the punt part is true
    but yeah, thats what i meant, its a dead play already
     
  14. mute

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    play would be better if McNight went deep.
     
  15. BleednGreen

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    I actually think Sanchez does that a lot because most of the routes are shit but then he gets bashed for holding the ball too long :rofl:

    (not necessarily bashed by you but I mean in general)

    Plus by now I bet he's already expecting to get drilled within 3 seconds of the snap :rofl:
     
  16. chibucks

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    that or if he threw it to mcknight instead of someone who has linebacker help...
     

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