this offense doesn't establish ANYTHING. we need to establish the run, but when we do, we go away from it. Totally away from it. then we come out throwing air corelle style and get favre killed or at least hit on every pass. i really think our game-planning is the major problem. we should have taken the ball and ran it down the chiefs throats. i am all for the pass (as most fans are) but once they had to commit to stopping the run, then let favre do his thing. i think it is all on the coaches
Ya wanna know why Chad is suddenly Favre and Favre is suddenly Chad? The fucking uniforms. Titans throw-back days were pretty good passing games. Since going back to the turf colors.....squatola. Laugh all you like, but ask the seachickens how their passing game is. The Eagles? You know what they call uniforms that match the environment? CAMOFLAUGE!!!!!
Several things to cover here. First, Chad is no more of a top player in Miami at the moment than he was with the Jets over the last few seasons. Bill Parcells and his coaching staff are doing a wonderful job of covering Chad's weaknesses by sprinkling in huge helpings of the single-wing with Ronnie Brown lined up in the shotgun and Chad split out wide. This causes opposing defenses to have to cover a much wider range of potential play options on each play and leaves major gaps for the kind of dump-off precision that Chad is noted for. The Dolphins have scored 145 points in 7 games which is about par for the course for all the seasons that Chad was in NY. As to what the coaching staff could be doing better on offense? They could choose to establish an offensive identity and exploit that gameplan. The Jets obviously have the offensive line this year to grind out the game when they need to. Not at the 3 yard line but from whatever point on the field they are at. So the Jets could choose to establish that identity and run with it. The Jets obviously have the talent in the WR and TE corps and at QB to establish a spread-type offense that is going to pass two-thirds of the time and eat up large chunks of ground on a few plays every drive. You couldn't give Brett Favre better options than Jerrico Cotchery, Laveranues Coles, Leon Washington, Dustin Keller and Chansi Stuckey to try to run this type of offense. All of those guys can take it to the house on any given play and each of them would have multiple shots at that each game if you ran the spread. Instead what the Jets are doing is mixing and matching, going grind on a few plays then spread on a few plays, then back to grind, with some standard west coast bullshit thrown into the mix as glue. That's why they've been so maddeningly inconsistent. Depending on the opponent the Jets should try to be either the Steelers or the Patriots on offense. They should figure this out based on the strengths and weaknesses of the opposing defense. The Jets opened up with 14 passes in their first 15 plays against the Raiders on a day in which they were going to have 242 yards rushing and just 13 points. WTF is so hard with figuring out that the Raiders have been tougher against the pass than the run for the last 2+ seasons, with a couple of exceptions this year, and trying it out the other way? Going with the run first against the proven weakness of the defense and then switching to the pass if things didn't work out there? The Jets got 3 freaking points out of a first half that included only 9 runs in the mix. In the second half they went all run all the time but by then the damage had been done. Half of getting out-coached is in the meeting room before the game is played.
Why do you ALWAYS play devils advocate when it comes to arguments about our coaching staff? Do you think you must be that guy who defends the coaching staff because of overly cynical fans? What you say doesn't even make sense. Yes, Favre contributed to the game being as close as it was with his interceptions, but had we run up the middle more, it may have been a blow out. Whether you want to believe it or not, Chiefs had the worst ranked run defense in the NFL, and we have two more than capable runners of exploiting it. We did not. Schottenheimer was being to cute and not going with what wins. Were you here during the Herm/Hackett days? I'm sure you defended Hackett's playcalling and Herm's clock management skills from us overly cynical fans too. It's one thing to exaggerate how bad this team is and unjustifiably blame people, but it's another to defend them all the time and try to make its critics look like people who just need something to be critical about. Give it a rest.
Another refreshingly good post by BradwaySux. Unfortunately, I'm sure JetsLookingForDWare will claim he's a darksider with nothing else to do but bash our great coaching staff.
- OK...Favre throws 3 TDs instead of INTs and we blow them out. And I'm sorry...it's cool to exaggerate the faults of a team but to say stop being critical cause when it gets down to it you really don't know shit is....wrong? TF? And no...I criticized Hackett for his predictability and lack of aggressiveness...now we have a O-coordinator calling passes with a HOF QB throwing the ball and you guys bitch...even though we win...and I'm the fucked up one...welcome to being a Jets fan.
You know, it's possible for more than 1 and only 1 thing to be at fault. Whenever someone questions the play calling you seem to think they're putting all the blame on the play calling and none on the players. That's stupid. Obviously the INT's hurt and Favre needs to play better. The play calling ALSO needs to be better. Less passes could have resulted in less INT's. Open your eyes and look at how shitty the play calling was the last two weeks. It's painfully obvious.
No it's not, you always blame one side or the other because you fail to see most of us have been blaming both.
That's not what you've been saying at all. You criticize anyone who questions the coaching staff and act like they are putting all the blame on the coaches. It's annoying as hell.
And...why would I do that if there wasn't a whole board turning any little thread into a playcalling/coach bashing bonanza? Meanwhile, those same people will sit there and tell me that INTs from Favre are fine because thats Favre being Favre. It's annoying to you cause you disagree with me. I think the coach hounding is annoying as hell. I think the fact that many people have told us lesser informed exactly what Schotty is thinking when he calls a play...that hope that people will see he's a genius. How much of the blame has went towards player player here? Yea...exactly.
This is where you fail. You immediately apply posts by 1 or 2 people to everyone who has a complaint about the coaches. I couldn't care less if you disagree with me, but when you throw out bullshit like this at every post making complaints about the coaches it's stupid. If anyone makes a complaint about the coaches you immediately go into your tired sarcastic routine and apply the old you put all the blame on the coaches nonsense to them. A lot of what is being discussed is valid with examples and logic to back it up.
Uh huh...and alot of it isn't. Go back and read my posts and get this double standard bullshit out of here. I'm not one of the people going "this isn't on Favre, this is on the coaching staff" when Favre is throwing 3 INTs in a game. Thats not holding everyone accountable, thats blaming it on the fucking coaching staff. Lol...now alluva sudden everyone is holding everyone accountable...despite the endless threads and posts within threads where the coaching staff and only the coaching staff took shots. Makes sense. Just because I don't go out of my way to contribute to the endless whining about the playcalling doesn't mean I don't have my issues with it.
This is whollly based on the fact that the Bills gained the first. Why? Cause at the time they didn't want to give up a FG. That turned into our only TD. This is the kind of shit people DO NOT THINK ABOUT when they consider WTF bad play calling is.
No, it's not based on the fact that the Bills got the first at all. It turned a 43 yd attempt into a 48 with another down. They're still within field goal range and now they have the opportunity to make a big play. I can't believe anyone would think this is a good decision.
