Two players can be the same height and weight but be proportioned differently. Jay's right, Allen has sore of a lanky frame with long limbs while Dawan Landry is pretty stacked, a compact build.
I'm not thinking so myself, I think Wilson has found reasonable success at a position but has struggled more than you like to see in his outside opportunities. He played outside for most of the year when Revis went down, and teams picked on him because they knew eventually they could make something happen. Granted you can't use the first game or two directly after Revis went down, but 10-11 games later he was still the weakness in that secondary (Cro, Bell, Landry, and Wilson). Wilson has been good as our slot guy because he is more athletic and faster than the average slot CB. He plays the chains very well, and is usually a pretty reliable tackler. I'd rather keep him in the slot where he's shown he is not a weak point.
If Allen is slimmer and lankier compared to Landry who is stacked and compact, but they are the same height and weight, where the fuck is Allen's weight coming from, his dick? In all seriousness, the only way that mathematically works is if Allen's bones and muscles are quite a bit denser. Either way, whether it's bone/muscle density or fan misperception, he is not any less equipped to play the run than Landry.
No he is not. If Wilson is starting we are in trouble. The guy can't get his head around to track the ball to save his life. If he did he would have triple the interceptions he has now.
the sense of it would be if they felt Patterson was not that good, or being as old as he is is entering his decline.
He is no older than Cortland Finnegan, and when he has been on the field he has played well. Finnegan is the same age and his play significantly declined from 2012-2013 without an injury. Just saying.
Yeah, like the day both of them were weighed before the season started, maybe Allen was constipated or had a lot of water weight, maybe his kidneys are larger, there are hundreds of factors that can add or subtract weight from a body that have nothing to do with bone density and muscle mass. Or maybe you can just take a look at pictures of the two of them and realize how pathetically obvious the difference in their frames is instead of looking at height/weight to determine it.
Exactly how much weight do you think can be accumulated through a combination of water weight, constipation, and oversized kidneys? Pro athletes' water weight can certainly fluctuate, but they are highly regulated and don't fluctuate as much as say a wrestler or gymnast or someone who diets. Also, constipation is not generally an issue for professional athletes, considering how physically active they are and thus how much water they drink. Sure it's possible, but improbable. Allen is faster and is a more explosive athlete, you can see this in his 40 time, drills, and vertical, or just from watching the game. Does it really not make sense that his muscles are denser than Landry's?
Considering that picture portrays Landry at a playing weight (actually looks training camp weight) from years ago it's not really valid for this conversation.
Muscle density has to do with the mass/volume ratio of a muscle, which can be effected by the presence of fatty tissues, and muscle fiber type. There are a number of different muscle fiber types. Those with the least amount of capillaries are the densest, and also happen to be the most powerful, explosive muscle fibers. The explosion that Antonio Allen shows in his better burst, top speed, and vertical leap compared to Dawan Landry indicate he has a higher muscle density. Some people naturally carry less fatty tissue in their muscles, but obviously I cannot speak to that as far as the Allen/Landry debate.
Got a citation? I've always known the definition of muscle density as muscle tone, the the ability for muscle fiber to remain hard when at rest.
I'll find one, but the definition you gave is not wrong it's just simplistic. A muscle remaining hard-at-rest has to do with a lack of fatty tissue within that muscle, and of course the development of the muscle fibers themselves. The less fatty tissue in between the muscle fibers, the more dense, and the more developed a muscle is the more fibers there are in a given muscle, thus an overall increase in density. Those are the simplest ways to change one's own muscle density. However, the different types of fibers are by nature different in density. Blood capillaries within muscles are less dense than muscle fibers themselves. Muscle fibers classified as IIx are the the least rich in capillaries, but are also the most powerful, explosive fibers and are the most associated with explosive type movement, such as a rapid increase in speed, a top speed, and the ability to jump high. That is why I would say that by nature, Allen's superior athleticism (especially in terms of his explosive ability) over Landry indicates he has a higher muscle density.
