Rinse and Repeat

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by hastygreen, Oct 2, 2016.

  1. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    isn't that what happened 2 years ago with the billboards?
     
  2. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I didn't say that we should be drafting for the Jets, so don't understand your going off on that tangent. I was just making the point that when some of us complain about players the team did or didn't draft, that it isn't always "hindsight," that sometimes we didn't like a player or liked others better and thought they would be better fits and help our team more.

    I think you're blaming the fan base, when instead you should be blaming the Jets' owners. First Hess, and now Woody have been clueless twits in running the team. They spent a ton of money to buy the team, so have a right to be involved in decision-making. It's just our bad luck that the people who have owned the Jets were clueless, made such horrific hires, and allowed a legacy of losing or sorry ass football to ensue. Fans aren't blind or stupid. We're human and our patience has limits.

    I'm glad that Woody got tired of not making the playoffs. I'm glad that he wants to win. I just think that he held onto Rex too long and that influenced his decisions with how Mac would handle the team. Of course, the absolutely right thing to have done when he hired Mac was to say to Mac and to the fans, that we were entering a rebuilding mode and to please be patient, that he would not be pressuring or expecting immediate success from Mac and Bowles. Actually, he should have allowed Mac to hire his own HC, rather than doing it backwards and hiring the HC and then the GM. But the team should have been built from the ground up with young players. Part of the problem, however, was that Woody allowed Idzik to not spend money, and so Mac was forced to spend a LOT on FAs. In an ideal world, Mac would have rolled with Geno at QB, not re-signed Harris or Revis, would have only signed some young, cheap FAs and rolled with the youth movement and let the team grow up together. But no, they had to try to win while rebuilding the roster and filling a huge number of holes.

    Most of us wanted Idzik to sign some players and spend money. Some of us wanted the rebuild and not the "retool" and "win now." I really don't think that the fanbase influences Woody that much. He wants to sell tickets, but anyone like him has an ego and he's going to do what he thinks is best.
     
  3. Don

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    The absolute right thing to do would have been to hire a GM who knows what the fuck he is doing and insist that person hire a coach with experience that knows what the fuck he is doing too instead of continuing to hire first timers who know jack shit about anything they are doing.
     
  4. BomberJet

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    For me, what this team has had a serious issue with, is the gamble on hiring an unknown coach thinking that one day a new Bill Parcells from the Giants era will emerge. Look at the CS of the past 5 regimes since Bill has gone and left us all the way...."hey hey hey".....

    Al Groh
    Herm Edwards
    Eric Mangini
    Rex Ryan
    Todd Bowles

    Jets have not had a good track record for taking these types of gambles.
     
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  5. Absolutely.

    While Idzik was definitely a MAJOR flaw...the epidemic is far more widespread than just the GM position. I'm not sure what the solution or message fit for a billboard should be...but MAJOR change is needed from the highest levels & the power to make it happen is in our hands.
     
  6. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    You got money to buy the team? I mean shit, Jets ain't winning anytime soon, maybe I'll rob a Mexican Drug Cartel and put that money in for buying the NYJs.

    50 / 50 partnership deal?
     
  7. I don't but if the team became publicly traded ALA Green Bay..we all could own the team. There's also the dude who created "Game of Thrones" who is a Jets junkie & is on record for wanting to purchase the team.

    Denver got lucky w. John Elway stepping in. We don't have that level of prestige..but we need that type of leadership. Curtis Martin? Chad Pennington? Hell even Damien Woody.

    This front office/Coaching staff needs ruthless prudent credibility
     
  8. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Green Bay has always been the model franchise to me. I always wanted the Jets to be like them. If this team didn't exist, I would've chosen the Packers. If I had to pick a Jet, it would be George Klecko. Intelligent, doesn't mess around type of guy. He demands accountability.
     
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  9. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Always going after the greenhorns and never consider the experienced guys. Look at what Del Rio and Kubiak are accomplishing for their teams, hired the same year as we had an opening. I don't think they even got interviews.

    4 out of the last 5 SBs were won by coaches considered "retreads." more and more teams are smarting up and realizing its no fun having a guy learn on the job and they don't wanna be the minor league for inexperienced coaches... like our Jets.
     
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  10. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    having a terrible knee jerk reaction owner doesnt help.

    its also tough to win without agreat coach and qb. look around the AFC the last 10-20 years, its not like we are doing as well as most teams. blls have like a 100 year p;layoff drought.

    issue the last 7 or 8 years was the expectations.
     
  11. Jetsfansince95

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    Although I agree ... which good coach with experience would ever consider this disaster ...
     

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