Yeah, I have a feeling Leinart would be a big winner with the right team. Put him on St Louis or Denver or Dallas and he'd have won going out of the gate. Put him on a sound team having trouble now like Green Bay, Tennessee or Buffalo and he'd have won big in a few years. Arizona is a black hole. I think having him land there means he's not going to make much of an impact before his first contract is up. BTW, here's a thought on Leinart: he might turn out to be a Steve Young scenario, where the first team that landed him (Tampa Bay in Young's case) could not make much of him. Young then get traded to San Francisco and the rest of his career speaks for itself.
Mangold and Brick have been great picks. Once they draft or sign a young RT, and a couple of young OG, this is going to be a talented, young, and deep Oline that is going to be a force, lead by Mangold in the middle. Amazing what happens when you have a competent CS and FO.
Isn't it a breath of fresh air? I can actually see myself in 15 years looking back at 3 Jet's wins in the Super Bowl and a top 10 performance over that span. Even with Parcells I couldn't quite see that happening because of his age and health and history of jumping ship on his teams.
I love our first round picks, This is the only way we were going to move forward with this team. YOUTH --- Youth wins baby. NOW next draft we build again. DE and NT ----> Then look out. I can feel it building and it all started with this past draft. GREAT JOB FO boys.
sorry, but that is funny.... but yeah, great read and hope he continues playing well. also, what i cant understand is how a guy can play a game called football but yet not touch it (apart from snapping it)....incredible.
This has been happening to me a lot lately without any artificial suppliments. It may be coming from an urge to spawn.
I was pretty pissed when I read that the FO wasn't bringing Mawae back. He was one of my favorite Jets....but Mangold has been outstanding....and the fact he is a rookie, and is showing this much skill and potential, let alone performing from the jump the way he has really has me thinking it was one of the smartest picks and moves in recent years. I have a strong affection for the O lineman, and I'm glad to see we put a young, talented guy in at the most important spot imo. LT is always a spot you watch, but center is where it's at.
Dare I say that Mangold could have gone at 4 and Brick in the 20's if we based it on their play to date?
I don't think there's a lot of doubt about Leinart's arm or talent at the the moment. The reason he fell as far as he did in the draft was the injury history. Teams just were not really happy about spending a top 5 pick on a guy with as much time in surgery as he's had already in his career. Young might have had a better arm than Leinart did coming out of college, but nobody since Peyton Manning had similar talent on the field. Nobody thought Leinart was going to bust with whoever took him. He actually landed in the worst possible place and he still looks like he's going to be good.
Steve Young was an off the chart talent, kind of like Palmer coming out. Leinart doesn't have close to those kind of tools. Young is one of the great NFL QB's of all time, to even talk about Lienart in the same sentence is an insult to Young. The Cardinals have some serious talent around Leinart, the line isn't great but if he can't succeed their with Green as his coach with those WR and perfect playing conditions most of the time, I doubt we see him step in down the road and do a Plunkett or a Young. Those guys could get the ball down field when they were older, Lienart is more like a week armed version of Boomer.
There's a difference between being a bust and being a "big winner." Leinart will never be anything more than mediocre. That was the knock on him, he is low risk low reward. Cutler was higher risk and greater reward, and Young was a HUGE risk with HUGE upside. If everyone realizes their potential, Leinart will easily be the worst of the 3. Young seems to already have figured out what it takes to win games in the NFL, whereas Leinart still can only just come close. Cutler will get a chance if Plummer plays himself out of a starting job, we could see him come mid-season, probably next season is more likely. Short term I thought Leinart would be the best, mid-term I thought it would be Cutler, and long term I thought Young. But now it looks like Young has made the most progress in the shortest amount of time, and he very well might just be the best of the 3 also in the quickest timespan. It's Vince Young that I always thought could become a Steve Young type player, but it's much too soon to put him in that class as well. No rookie can be compared to Steve.
