Roster: the nonsense excuse for Rex

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  1. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    oh we have gifted wins:rofl: we have 6 wins w/ a great chance for a 7th- that would be more wins than last year, right? despite less talent and a worse QB.

    FIRST in YPC against which is the most important #.

    The D never sacred anyone.
     
  2. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The D scared Tom Brady and Drew Brees this year. That front seven is beastly when the offense is not in max protect something neither the Pats or the Saints are willing to do.

    I should go back and look and post some of the wide-eyed expressions Brady and Brees showed us when the SoA were in beast mode.
     
  3. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    But why didn't they scare Andy Dalton, Jake Locker, Ryan Tannehill or EJ Manual? I think Cam Newton is a beast so I won't even complain about him.
     
  4. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    NO is obviously a much different team on the road compared to at home.
     
  5. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    And Brady is obviously a different qb without gronk.
     
  6. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    I also firmly believe that division opponents can be more problematic as a measure of success than others, because you are so used to playing them. Having played each other two times, at least, every year, year after year, you notice matchup issues more clearly. I would also say that Ryan has emphasized the need to get past NE ever since he came here, for good reason. Playoff implications aside, the two NE games each year are clearly the ones Ryan is most focused on, as has been the team. Yet despite some great wins, he is still on the losing side of the record against them.

    Meanwhile Ryan has had general success against Buffalo, which is a worse team, but more telling is his awful record against Miami. How to explain that??? Miami has not had better talent, yet the Jets are 3-6 against them under Ryan.

    One way to look at it is that the awful losses against Buffalo in the second game and the one against Miami in the only one so far more than balance out the win over NE. And of course NE did beat the Jets earlier.

    In short i don't think we should make too much of what after all is a somewhat rare win over NE.
     
  7. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    Our Secondary has taken a step back for sure, but we are creating more pressure on the QB with less blitzing then in 09-10 era defenses of Rex's. This is not a roster without flaws and the salary purge of last offseason and this upcoming offseason will go a long way towards fixing that.

    Mike T was making the big splashes in trades long before Rex got here. It Created a very talented roster with a very short window to win as the big deals and constantly pushing money out caught up to him. People want to place the blame for the roster this year on Rex, but it was not his management that led to the need for a financial purge. They want to place the blame for the drafting of guys like Wilson on him, but none of the credit for Wilkerson or Richardson.

    The points about our team winning big games and following with a let down are valid. As are us beating good QBs only to watch the likes of Jake Locker light us up. On the other hand we have a guy making vet min nearing 10 sacks in this system. I would love to see what would happen if we get another talent on the edge.

    I like some of the things Rex brings, but he is obviously a work in progress. Its up to Idzik and Woody to decide if he is still a guy they can win with or not this offseason. I would like to see how good this team could be if we ever received even average play from the QB position.
     
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  8. Jeremy2020

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    The thing I don't understand is with the QB position being such a critical factor is why teams aren't taking QBs every year. The top ones flame out and then end up with a guy from 3rd, 6th round or whatever who wins you a superbowl(s). I know they worry that they can't evaluate them all, but hell, honing in one guy doesn't seem to work. May as well put more tickets into the lottery.
     
  9. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    With regards to the OP, if a HC tells his GM the type of player he wants/needs and the GM satisfy this needs with a bum is that the HC's fault?
     
  10. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    And you know how the Jets have used their hierarchy to determine draft picks how?

    I know that you won't respond, because you are scared, but people reading this guy's posts should take his presumptions with a mountain of salt.
     
  11. jilozzo

    jilozzo Well-Known Member

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    Some loosely follow that philosophy but with 7 round drafts, if u take a QB every year, u are creating a 6 round draft for yourself year after year to fill all other positions. Team would have to be active in free agency and moving up/down during the draft.
     
  12. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    He's that fly on the wall. He hears everything in the draft war room. He knows everything.
     
  13. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    I asked a question which you respond with a question, followed by answering on my behalf, then say I'm scared and people should not pay attention to my posts. Put the pipe down; it's still early in the evening.
     
  14. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I was expecting a non-answer, and instead you respond with a non-answer.

    Really impressive.
     
  15. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Neither is the OP who presumes Rex is mostly responsible for his roster.
     
  16. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    What makes you worthy of having your question answered after answering my question with a question?
     
  17. tomdeb

    tomdeb Well-Known Member

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    I don't care what anyone says, you can see Rex's fingerprints all over every draft. Not drafting a WR until the 4th round in 2014 was inexcusable. Did Idzik/Rex really think either Hill or Nelson was a starting WR in the NFL? The idiotic pick of McDougle (ranked 256th best plater by nfl.com) in the 3rd round SHOWS Rex's influence on the draft--Take some CB who some teams didn't even have on their draft board in the 3rd round when you have gaping holes at WR and OL. If you want to REACH for a CB at least consider a player who played last year.
     
  18. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    I think it's asking a lot of a HC to coach your team and be up on college prospect. If you are a GM that allows the HC to dictate your draft, you are doing so at your own risk. At the end of the day you will be the one held accountable so you better make sure you agree with those picks. What kind of person allows someone else to make them look like an idiot? Matt Millen who was an absolute disaster as a GM did say something really profound in the A Football Life episode I saw on him. He said something to the effect of "never make someone else's mistakes". Basically, he's saying he made some stupid decisions but they were his not someone else's.
     
  19. Wahoo

    Wahoo Well-Known Member

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    Um, no. The Jets "mighty" D was great the first six games of Rex's first season. After that the league figured him out and the D has been, at best, slightly above average since. Rex made the playoffs with Mangini's remnants and when they left so did the Jets playoff appearances
     
  20. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    You asked the OP a douchebag question that can't be answered because it was riddled with assumption.

    What makes anything you post worthy of being taken seriously?
     

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