Lebron was the better passer and defender the min he stepped out on the court. The guy when it comes to running the offense, getting players involved - far more advanced then Carmelo. Those are skills he learned at an early age. No one ever question Lebron's ability to create his own shot. Lebron in all actuality is one of the smartest basketball players I have ever seen. Even going back to HS so it's not just his God given gifts that makes Lebron special. Anthony Davis skill level was amazing from the get-go. Read up on him in HS, he had PG abilities before his grow spurt, the man was shooting mid-range jumpers. He's learned a lot about the game prior to the NBA. LOL @ Geno though, I wanted to throw him in there to see what would happen heh.
Stop the presses...Chip Kelly publicly compliments a guy that's now his starting QB for the rest of the regular season most likely. The hyperbole on both sides is laughable. I don't know what the Sanchez haters have against the guy other than he was bad his last year and a half, he wasn't an off-field embarassment and somehow managed to handle everything including getting left out to dry in the Snoopy Bowl with class. By the same token the Sanchez pom-pom wavers are equally over the top completely absolving him of everything that happened and giving only him credit for the success of the first two seasons and none of the blame for the last two.
I actually agree with this but if you are in position to get "the most talented QB in the world" as you put it, why pass? I don't see the benefit.
We don't know if Mariota is a franchise QB, he's not the surefire prospect. Again, we draft Mariota you know I am going to be on-board. He's exciting to watch. I just feel we need to sit him down for a little bit if we do draft him.
To me, the only logical thing to do is to keep drafting a quarterback until we find one. To me, quarterback is the single biggest need on this team and has been for 6 years. As a result, if I were running the franchise, I'd be taking the best one I could get my hands on. So, if I had a chance to get Mariotta, I'd take him in a nanosecond.
I agree, but there needs to be a developmental plan - if Mariota comes here, we can't rush him out there onto the field otherwise it's going to be another painful QB experience.
LeBron is a great passer because of vision (God given) and as stated before he grew up playing the game as a guard. Defending is a matter of effort and athleticism. When you combine elite athleticism with want to you get Lebron and Jordan. Even if Melo wanted to he would never be the defender that LeBron is because he lacks that elite athleticism. I agree that Lebron is one the most intelligent players that ever played the game but we both know that him being drafted #1 overall in his draft had WAY more to do with him being a 6-8 250+ freak of nature with rare speed and athleticism. Anthony Davis also proves my point. Just like Lebron, if he doesn't have the growth spurt he'd just be another guard with PG abilities. It's his size and athleticism that makes the "learned skills" that much more impressive. Even if his skill level was not as great he would still be highly touted because size and athleticism can not be thought whereas skills can.
You are right; we don't know if he's a franchise QB and that he's not a surefire prospect. However, we do know he has surefire talent and character which is more than enough to go on.
Before those growth spurts they were players that had those "learned skills". They were already developed - add on the intimidating size and they became elite prospects. Lebron was always a great passer and had an extreme passion to learn about the game. Those are learned and developed early on. Passing isn't just a God-given ability, you have to see how the defense is set up, how you pass the ball - a lot of fundamental things play a role in passing the basketball and playing defense especially, it's not just effort and athleticism, you have to move your feet, keeping your eyes on the player. Those are learned skills. Skills those players exhibited at an early age. You ask the NBA what makes Lebron special the most? They will say his IQ. W/out those learned skills (developed early in age), who knows if they develop properly in the NBA. Lebron ain't going to be Lebron w/out putting that work in to develop his fundamentals
Didn't say he should come back. I think the real issue why can't the NY jets get a decent quarterback on their roster.
If Mark is better than he showed here, do you think Rex is greatly to blame for how greatly his performance declined the last few years? I keep thinking back to how the defensive coaches gave Schottenheimer tips and advice on how to defeat the Ravens in the 2010 opener and apparently none of it was used. Point being if that is true and Rex sat idly by on the sideline so as to not micro manage his OC I think that example would be indicative of his lack of interest, strategy and ability to participate in the offense and the development of the players. Head coaches have to drive the broad strategy on both sides and ensure the players are developing appropriately. But without an interest or strategy on how to develop a QB Sanchez was just left to be handled by incompetent coaches.
Sanchez had decent coaching while he was here. So you can't blame it on that. As for Rex. His mistake was not benching him. And no true competition for the starting job. Rex gave him over 60 starts. Unheard of for a guy who plays so poorly. Chip won't put up with that crap. If he starts tossing balls up like he did here he'll be out of there. And those Philly fans can really boo.
Which is it, he was given decent coaching or was he poorly coached which being allowed to lob up balls with no fear of being yanked would certainly qualify as? I disagree he was given decent coaching when you consider who his coaches were.
There is no contradiction here because these are two different aspects of coaching. There is coaching a player on how to play the position efficiently and intelligently and then there is holding that player accountable for his mistakes. Pclfan is arguing that Rex failed miserably in the second category. I happen to agree wholeheartedly.
He had Schottenheimer as OC. And Cavanagh as Qb coach. Sparano was OC in 2012. A guy who was obviously on Mark's side and refused to use Tebow even when Mark was horrible. All of the 3 are good NFL veteran coaches. And again even if they were poor coaches good players can rise above that. Wayne Chrebet did. His first head coach was Kotite, Look conditions are not always going to be picture perfect for any player with coaches, etc. If they were then Jamarcus Russell would be another Unitas. I guess you could make excuses for him, too if you wanted to.
There is a contradiction because he only mention coaching broadly not the narrowed aspect of accountability. Beyond that, what is the defense that he was coached well strategically?
