Nothing worse than blind, misguided loyalty. Rex hurt his credibility that year by playing Mark as long as he did, and truth be told, he probably hurt Mark's development as well. The error was egregious. He eventually benched Mark for a non-starting caliber quarterback, anyway. He might as well have done it earlier, when it was already obvious that Mark had lost his confidence and whatever competency he had.
And btw, if you give Rex another young, struggling QB, he'll make the same mistake for a third time. He'll talk him up until the cows come home, defend him incessantly, and wait as long as conceivably possible to hold him accountable for his inadequate play. Rex is who he is.
And again, just because a young player gets benched, doesn't mean his career is over or that he can't ever develop into a really good player.
The bold reads funny. You can "deserve" to be benched and not get benched for a litany of reasons not having a quality back-up being one. Like Cromartie "deserved" to be benched last year but wasn't. Favre "deserved" to be benched at the end of 08 but he wasn't. A ton of guys needed to be benched in 2012 but weren't. I agree he deserved to be benched but I understand why he wasn't; I don't see it as a big deal caused we sucked as a whole and it really didn't matter. We'll just have to agree to disagree that Mark had to be made an example of in the cluster fuck that was 2012. I see no value in continuing this back and forth.
Fair enough. We'll agree to disagree. I've had a beef with Rex about those types of decisions for a while now. I don't think uncompromisingly encouraging, cheering, and coddling young players works in their favor. I think they need to feel like their jobs are on the line, not that they can do nothing poor enough to warrant their demotion. I think they need tough love when they struggle just as much as they need a pat on the back.
In 2012 Rex was not thinking about Sanchez's development (he never did) or his psyche. He was really doing what he thought would give him the best chance to win as many games as he could. In the end, he still managed to squeeze out 6 wins out of what was probably a 2-4 wins roster.
I've watched every press conference of Rex's this year. I personally didn't get the impression that he wanted to bench Geno at all. I don't buy that Idzik was calling all of the shots for a second. I think Rex was delusioinally confident in Geno the way he is delusioally confident in all of his players. I just think that's his way.
Rex is infatuated with the idea of believing in his players, no matter how badly they play. It's his thing. I think it was just Rex being Rex. And it's Rex's job to think about the development of his franchise quarterback. If he wasn't thinking about it all, then he's not a competent NFL head coach. Rex's coddling, cheerleader act hurts young players like Sanchez.
I think once again you guys continue to put too much value into what Rex says during a press conference. I honestly think he never wanted Geno and that because of it he really doesnt believe in Geno. I think Idk is pulling the strings and have since picking Geno in the draft. I believe this due to the so called "QB competition" when it was clear last year and this year there really wasn't one.
Well we know it's not entirely his decision as Idzik has made it clear that who starts is a "collaborative" decision between he and Rex, which is somewhat unprecedented on its own merit.
It may not be entirely his decision, but I got the impression Rex was extremely pro Geno. Rex is a guy who kind of hints at what he's thinking even when he toes the company line. I really think he was a Geno-believer. Could be wrong, of course. Just speculation based on my own personal observations.
No it doesn't. It doesn't prove a thing. The last time he played in a regular game season was 2012 with the Jets. Now let's go back to the second half of 2011 when Mark crashed. So the Jets traded for Timmy. And then after firing Schotty hired Tony Sparano to be the OC. Tony was a good line coach but had never been a coordinator. The big mystery of that season was why did they get Tim Tebow and then almost never use him. Rex claimed they were developing a Tebow package but it was a secret and they wouldn't show it until the regular season which was a lie. There were almost no Tebow plays and he only threw 7 passes all season. Mark's fans btw had another excuse for his regression: the presence of Tim on the roster. They hated the fact that there could be any real Qb competition so they said Tim was a distraction. So why did the Jets almost never use the guy at all esp after Mark imploded. Was it because he was horrible in practice and totally inaccurate. Or other reasons. I have one theory. I just don't think Sparano wanted to work with or knew how to work with him and come up with a different package of plays to spotlight his abilities. When he came to the Jets he found problems with the OL and blocking schemes and decided that was how he wanted to spend his time. Again just a theory. So if you want to talk about the Jets ruining a player it was Tim not Mark. Sanchez had every chance in the world to prove how bad he was but Tim didn't. His detractors just said he shouldn't be in the NFL. But when he did play all he did was win including against us. You say a below 50% completion ratio. I say an over 50% won loss record and a W over the Steelers in the playoffs. And you're going to say they won in spite of him. Well it's better than losing because of him like we did with Mark.
And for all of Timmy's accomplishments, he's never played another down anywhere after the Jets. Compare Tebow to Danny Woodhead. If he had the talent to play, he'd be on someone's roster. He simply does not. The Jets weren't wrong about him.
Mark won 4 playoff games. Against the likes of Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. Tebow's one playoff win means nothing to me or really anyone else. He was a terrible QB. The Jets had one losing season with Mark and it's been said that he may have even had shoulder damage during the season. I'm not saying Mark is a good QB. I'm saying your Tebow points are invalid considering Mark bests them by a large margin. With that said, how the fuck did Tebow come up? This thread finally has a point. Mark is a starter and looks to be comfortable. If he does well, great. If he doesn't, not surprising. I know I'm more excited to watch the Eagles Monday night than I am to watch us get fucked.
