I think that would be their only choice if their source was bought out by Big Football and hamstrung them. Matt Walsh was on the grassy knoll, filming astronauts in Nevada.
Goodell should resign. The message to NFL fans is: You can be excused for cheating for 8 years if: a) You are the Patriots b) You pay $500 K The Patriots could see losing "their 1st rounder" as a blessing from the Commish, considering the cap money they'll be saving by not having to pay a guy who could (a la Brandon Merriweather) just as well turn out to be a bust. The Patriots gained a competitive advantage for 8 seasons, arguably winning Super Bowls they would not have won otherwise, and what does the man in charge of the NFL do?? He should have taken away their next 3 drafts (every single pick), and suspended Belichik from coaching the 2008 season. Does anybody think forfeiting the 1st round pick this year will hurt the Patriots in any way competitively?? Goodell is a joke.
Al this is a dumb post. The reason why bellichick didnt get suspended is because goodell could see that the tapes weren't use in the games. I believe if he thought they had been then he probably would have got a 4 game suspension And as far a merriweather being a bust . what brings you to that conclusion, the pats were pretty deep at db's last year they dont need their rookies to start. And just to shed some light Samuels would have been considered a bust after 2 full seasons in fact he almost was cut in training camp of his third
So says the guy wearing a dunce cap. "If you call a tail a leg, how many legs has a dog? Five? No, calling a tail a leg don't make it a leg." - Abraham Lincoln Now you remember that.
BTW, Belly's CBS appearance did nothing to improve the Pats' standing in the public's eye. In fact, he may have made it worse. His arguments: 1. He knows more about football than Walsh. 2. He didn't really know Walsh, so Walsh is exaggerating his influence. 3. "I made a mistake. It was wrong." 4. I never told anyone to conceal the taping. After that type of "rebuttal," is there any doubt that what Walsh said is largely accurate?
Haha, "arguments". More like pathetic spin. The only thing that Belichick "misintrepreted" was his love turd, Spygate, being flushed away without anyone jiggling the handle.
How could Goodell see they weren't used in any games? All he would have to go on is the unsworn testimony of Patriots employees during questioning behind closed doors. He would be going on the word of Bill Belichick about whether or not the tapes were used during games, and I believe Goodell said himself in the presser after Walsh was interviewed that he didn't accept Belichick's explanation for why the third camera was being used, and doesn't to this day. Now we are supposed to believe BB's word on other matters is trusted? Gimme a break. The NFL investigating this situation is a huge conflict of interest due to the magnitude and public nature of this, and the league's fear of losing some of their paying fan base because of it. Cover up.
I love how Beli says that Walsh has no credibility, yet Beli was the one caught cheating, and has even cheated on his own wife, with a married woman. Yeah, his statements are credible
You are right, and what makes it more disgusting is that Goodell took this turd for his word also. O'well, like I said if they go 6-10 or worst....we all know what happened here.
Wow, you should take a breather, the anger and hate you have towards the Patriots is going to take years off your life. Also, if you had a clue in that head of yours and paid attention to the countless articles that have posted the Walsh comments, WALSH states very clearly that the tapes WERE NOT used in game. So I guess you'll believe some things Walsh says because it supports your agenda but ignore other things he says because it destroys your argument. Another thing some people here fail to address (or refuse to address) when trashing on Brady and claiming thats the obvious reason hes a SB MVP QB from the 6th round, is the fact that after the first game of last season against the Jets when "spygate" first started, the Patriots came under more scrutiny then any team in the history of sports, making it virtually impossible to continue this practice. Yet, Brady still dominated the league and broke offensive records and people even began to hate on the Patriots for "running up the score," on poor, helpless NFL teams. Seems that a video recording device didn't help us too much now did it? When the world was watching us to make sure we weren't using one, Brady and the offense had the best year of any offense in the history of the league. Yikes! That really throws a wrench in the Patriot Hate Machine. Funny, when I was watching the NFLN the other day and they were doing the top 10 best teams with nicknames, many of the dominating teams like the Greatest Show On Turf would stick it to their opponents offensively. The commentators were saying how they would do this on purpose and how it showed their dominance and prowess on the field. Not once did anyone on the program, former player, coach or commentator state that what these dominant teams were doing was "classless" or "running up the score" on teams. They viewed it as a sign of greatness and even interviewed the players who said they loved every second of it and did it on purpose. Looking forward to next season.... I'm sure we'll be going 6-0 in the division again, with or without a video camera.
I can't speak for Abyz, but I doubt very seriously that any of us are going to hate the Pats quite that much. You are hardly worth the effort. But we're still going to take the effort to poke you in the ribs and remind you that they were a group of classless cheaters everytime you start glory hounding them. If your head were filled with less hot air you would realize that they were used in A game... just possibly not the game they were filmed in. And filming was the equal of cheating - so tell me again how that makes it right? It was done to obtain an advantage over another team. Textbook cheating, or maybe they don't teach ya'll that in New England. Yes, with one of the best offenses ever assembled Sir Brady was magnificent. Now if they could have still relied on their trusty camcorder team, maybe they could have managed to go 19-0 too. That's ok, pocket full of offensive accolades and 18-1 is good enough, right? I'm looking forward to another season of seeing the Pats play on a level playing field. :beer:
And nowhere does any Pats fan try to explain why they were taping the Pittsburgh Steelers signals in the AFCC when the Patriots didn't even know they were playing the Steelers the following season. It's funny, you want to accept part of Walsh's statements, do you accept that he was told to CONCEAL HIS ACTIONS while taping? Or are you a hypocrite? The Pats sure went on a scoring spree this season, and I assume the taping portion of their cheating was ceased, but really, they stacked the offensive roster prior to the season. Had the Pats not accrued so much success* in previous years, I doubt they would have been able to compile the talent they did so easily. I could not care any less about running the score up. You can point to the past year without taping if you like, but the result at the end of it, as impressive as 18-1 is, was the Pats losing in the very same fashion as they won WITH the benefit of taping. I hope you will have the balls to show up next season when your predictions fall on their face.
You mean kinda like how you and your cohorts did the second after Plaxico scored the game winning touchdown? Where ya been for 4 months sweetie? I mean you had no problem acting like unwipped ass all last season on this board... until they lost that is, and you were no where to be found... leave troll
Stop with the red herrings and revisionist history From the Walsh interview: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/16/sports/football/16walsh.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&th&emc=th <After filming opponents’ signals, Walsh would edit the tape or deliver the original to Adams. Walsh said a quarterback — he declined to say whom — would learn the signals, and the next time the Patriots played that team, the quarterback would relay that information to Weis, who would use the coach-to-quarterback communication system to send the information to the field. The first time Walsh filmed an opponent’s signals was against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the 2000 preseason — Belichick’s first as the Patriots’ coach. Before the game, Walsh said Dee seemed “unsure of himself of what specifically it was that the coaches wanted me to film.” The Patriots then opened the regular season against the Buccaneers. Walsh said this was the first time he had seen quarterback Drew Bledsoe operate a no-huddle offense when not in a two-minute or hurry-up situation. In the week after the game, Walsh said he asked a quarterback — again, he declined to name whom — how helpful the signals were. Walsh said the quarterback told him “probably about 75 percent of the time, Tampa Bay ran the defense we thought they were going to run — if not more.”> Again, to review one more time, Walsh has stated that once he delivered the the illegally filmed tapes to the coaches, they decoded the signals, and then had the backup QB (golden boy Tom?) memorize them, and then the backup QB would stand behind Weis, tell him what play the defense was running, and then Weis would warn the starter through the helmet. Why are you intentionally trying to distort the essential truth of what Walsh has brought to light? And if all of this wasn't true why didn't the "genius" Belly refute it on CBS the other night?
http://i-hate-the-new-england-patriots.blogspot.com/ :lol: EDIT: And hey, how come they're not raking that slob Charlie Weis over the coals as to questioning? I'm sure that's been mentioned dozens of times here, but when the policia is policing the policia, is it really any wonder. That would be a no.
I've actually made this very same point on here, and I defer to no one in my hatred of the Patriots. That said, I think you are, um, maybe misinterpreting(?!) events somewhat. Your team clearly and systematically broke the rules. They didn't do it gratuitiously. They did it over an extended period of time, during which they were remarkably successful, but never dominant. A good team comprised of many mediocre players coached up into a superior system. Or some bullshit like that. During a time in football history when even true mediocrities like Herm Edwards could be counted on to make the playoffs at least every other year. But of course, this "misinterpretation of the rules" conferred no advantage at all. Maybe they never used the video during the game. Maybe someone knew Tom Brady was the next Joe Montana and had the stones to wait until round 6 to pull the trigger. Maybe some idiot savant math teacher named Ernie is the secret genius behind the Patriots dynasty*. Maybe I'll flap my arms and fly to the moon tonight. Believe whatever you want. Based on your post, your sense of self worth is pretty bound up in the fortunes of your football team, so I'm not holding my breath you'll exercise any skepticism whatsoever.
