Shawn Green traded to Mets

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  1. AllHackettsSuck

    AllHackettsSuck Well-Known Member

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    Im just commenting on the inconsistancies I see. Frankly, I think it was a great trade for the Mets and they should be congratulated.
     
  2. ShadeTree#55

    ShadeTree#55 Active Member

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    I don't know any Met fans who complained about the Skanks payroll.

    It makes it that much funnier when the eat a dick in the playoffs.
     
  3. AllHackettsSuck

    AllHackettsSuck Well-Known Member

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    Do you listen to WFAN at all?
     
  4. ShadeTree#55

    ShadeTree#55 Active Member

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    I try not to.
     
  5. 3rdAnd15Draw

    3rdAnd15Draw Well-Known Member

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    You've really lost it, what planet are you posting from? None of your posts are relevant or display even an ounce of sense.
     
  6. AllHackettsSuck

    AllHackettsSuck Well-Known Member

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    Even the one congratulating the MEts?
     
  7. Learn To Swim

    Learn To Swim 2008 Nightowltom "Best Non-Jets Poster" Award Winn

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    Maybe if we prod him a little he'll go completely crazy and start speaking in tounges.

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  8. Italian Seafood

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    Alou was killing the Dodgers over the weekend, he was the toughest out in the SF lineup. As for Green, I have to disagree with you there. He's a good player and I think he'll do well in the lineup the Mets have.

    When we had Gary Sheffield hitting behind him in LA he was awesome, even the year after Sheff was traded Green hit over 40 homers after a bad start. In 2003 he played hurt the whole year and in 2004 he moved to 1B the day before the season, when we got Milton Bradley to play OF, and he was a key factor in winning the division.
     
  9. 3rdAnd15Draw

    3rdAnd15Draw Well-Known Member

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    Alou is a good player, it just seems like it's impossible for him to stay healthy at this point. The Mets already have an OF'er that fits that bill(although possibly not the good player part the way he's hit this year).

    Green has had some big time seasons, but he's been only slightly above average from 03-05, and is having a pretty poor season in a hitters park this year. He's also a liability defensively. I guess the Mets felt it was worth it for a slight upgrade to their OF, but I'm not going to be doing backflips over this deal.
     
  10. kbgreen

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    I think your guys are arguing over BS. The point is David Wright needs protection in the lineup and currently he has none. Shuan Green will give him better protection than he currently has. Who cares how much money he makes or for how long! I do care what we gave up for him and in this case we did not trade too much.

    Now what we really need is starting pitching! IMO we do not have a starting rotation to win the world series!
     
  11. Italian Seafood

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    It's not a blockbuster, but for where you guys want to go this year he's a good veteran addition. I don't know what's going on in Arizona, to be honest with you. They are 4 games behind the Dodgers and they trade Green, who has absolutely destroyed us since we traded him, right before we come in for three games against them.

    Unless his defense has gone way down hill the past 1-1/2 seasons since I've watched him every day, he's pretty good. He even adapted to 1B on the fly and was part of the best defensive infield the Dodgers have had in decades.
     
  12. AlioTheFool

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    Hahaha, you know, I almost said the same thing myself, but then I thought about the reaction it would bring and stopped myself.

    Of course, there will always be excuses why it's always different for the Yankees.

    Just like it was all pretty that they threw a party for the '86ers, yet, the Yankees could throw an anniversary party every year for one team or another, but the Yankees would just be gloating on past glory.

    It's always different for the Yankees. It's hard not to hate a team that has lost more World Series than many teams have even appeared in.
     
  13. statjeff22

    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    This statement is to me is very reasonable, and I understand it more than your earlier comment that you didn't like the deal at all. This is basically trading Ledee for Green, isn't it? That has to be an upgrade in anyone's book. I don't care about the money (and given what they're getting from the D'Backs it's not that ridiculous), since there's no salary cap (I've never complained about the Yankees payroll either). If it turns out that Tucker does better than Green in the next five weeks, so be it. With a 13.5 game lead on Philly and a 10 game lead on St. Louis, the Mets can afford to give all of these guys tryouts, including pitchers like Maine, Bannister, Perez, etc.
     
  14. 3rdAnd15Draw

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    Yeah, when I made that first comment I thought that Green was making a good deal more then he actually is next year. They got 500k in cash this year and will be paying under 3mil for him next year with the 2m buyout in 08. Even if he doesn't work out they shouldn't feel obligated to start him next year at that price.

    While there is no salary cap I would definately say the Mets are working with a budget, and I was afraid that deal might prevent them from going after other, better players in the offseason.
     
  15. statjeff22

    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    A good point, and one I admit I sometimes forget. Happily, as you note, Green isn't really making all that much, and the bonus is that if he can be decent (at a Floyd-like level, when Floyd is doing okay), this could actually be a good thing, in that they can put corner outfielders on the back burner, and concentrate on getting a top-of-the-rotation starter.
     

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