Should the Jets always go for two with Tebow?

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Should the Jets always go for 2 with Tebow?

Poll closed Apr 13, 2012.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Are you kidding me - Rex's D doesn't give up two TD's HAHA
     
  2. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    I think it would probably prove to the correct strategy over the season but would they have the balls to do it after they lose a game on a day where the math wasn't in their favor?
     
  3. VanderbiltJets

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    Not sure that in the long-run the odds to score 2 would remain above 50.1%...
     
  4. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    It's intriguing. I'm not sure if I'd do it every game, but I've always liked looking at football this way.

    I doubt the Jets do anything with it. Can't see coaches taking those chances.

    When teams line up and try to convert 2-pt conversions, they convert it about 50% of the time, and when they run it, it's closer to 60%, according to Jason Lisk on NFL Live.

    From the 2.5 yardline, I think it makes a lot of sense to run the ball with Tebow. The key is to run it most of the time. That's why I said in the other thread Tebow is such a red-zone threat. He can run it inside or outside, he can hand it off inside or outside, or he can throw it inside or outside. With Tebow at QB, the Jets are more willing to do that.

    Sanchez has a running threat as well, but not nearly as much as Tebow. Sanchez is a passer first who can run when he needs to. Tebow is a running quarterback first.
     
  5. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    hell no....that would be suicide and for the same reasons Cleveland didn't with Jim Brown or Dallas with Emmitt Smith or Minnesota with Peterson or any other team who had much better running backs then Tebow will ever be.
     
    #25 Don, Mar 30, 2012
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  6. Falco21

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    I'll tell you what. If we do go for 2 every time and get it a majority of the time, you better believe Rex and Tanny will look like geniuses!!

    Imagine. A guy the press and a lot of fans thought would destroy everything about our locker room and take a turn for the worse, now allows us to go for 2 every TD and get it a majority of the time. Man that would really shut a lot of people up LOL
     
  7. VanderbiltJets

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    Of course, but that's just the simple math of it I already pointed out...
     
  8. Bannon

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    Extra blocker throws off the math in a direct snap play.

    Passing threat keeps defense from selling out for the run.

    It's a unique combination when you've got a QB that can execute a true power dive (basically, Cam and Tebow at this point in time).
     
    #28 Bannon, Mar 30, 2012
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  9. CowboysFan

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    Man you can't live in constant fear of the New York newspapers...c'mon man!

    Actually the same guy was on the radio today and said his math was wrong. NFL teams make it 61% of the time (botched snaps on kicks skewed the result the first time).
     
  10. NJGREEN

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    This is my new signature when I get home!!! LMFAO!!!
     
  11. Catt_County

    Catt_County Banned

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    I voted "yes" because I'm a Bills fan trolling the Jets MB and guaranteeing that the Jets become the "Jests" always works for me! :metal:
     
  12. CowboysFan

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    Well since you are trolling, I will troll back.


    On behalf of Cowboys nation we thank you for laying down and going belly up in order for us to get #3 and #4 below, I am always happy to meet a fellow Bills fan (and trust me I was a big fan of you guys making the superbowl those back to back years).


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  13. Bannon

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    Seriously, on behalf of all fandom, we want to thank the Bills for being in the NFL.
     
  14. TheMoops

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    Do it the NFL way ... Go for 2 until they stop you. The key is keeping it in Tebow's hands. I have yet to see him stopped on conversion when he runs it. Also, he did a ton of jump passes in college that he hasn't tried in NFL. Of course wait till regular season to try those.
     
  15. PolygamyWinsChampionships

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    This is the most pertinent question for any observer of this issue. The problem is that increasing tape and teams learning your 2 point tendencies more thoroughly and being better prepared for it can almost wildly skew your totals down as teams start to adjust and we have to readjust as a result. Don't forget that Tebow can't actually throw the football. So when we have to do that for pure strategic balance reasons, it will destroy the totals very efficiently which each throw.

    Yes and the funky scores you get from missing two point conversions can really mess with a team that "doesn't have that extra point on their scoreboard."

    That isn't a blanket argument. It works at some scores and times in the game, it does not in others. If the math works out anywhere near the 50-55% range overall then the true deciding factor should be the specific score/game situation. Having Tebow should make you more aggressive in borderline situations, but unless he's just pwning on 2 point conversions there is no way it's better to go for 2 EVERY time.

    Coaches not shouldering the responsibility is probably enemy #1 to this kind of thing happening more. You almost have to be a recent Super-Bowl winning coach at this point to try something like that. You have to be able to weather the storm when you invariably lose a couple of games that probably would have been won with simple kicks.

    By the time you're done, Tebow really needs to be converting closer to 55-60% "ALL DAY" for us to want to go for it a majority. I don't feel really qualified to assess his chances at actually doing that, but I'm guessing they're not all that great over a big enough statistical sample. Maybe the low end of that range.
     
  16. Yisman

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    Go for it more often, but by no means every time. Depends on the game situation.
     
  17. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    No, you're a Pats fan trolling a Jets MB pretending to be a Bills fan. And sucking at it.
     
  18. Remarker

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    No.

    Err, being unpredictable is an advantage in the game of football.
     
    #38 Remarker, Apr 5, 2012
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