I personally think that this team as a whole (Players and Coaches) just need to become a little smarter for the entire 60 minutes of football. Consistency is starting to develop, they just need to put it all together.
The NYJ aren't "bad". @NO, vs BUF, @MIA, and vs MIA the Jets beat themselves with mistakes. These types of games were EXPECTED with a rookie QB and HC. Those types of games will be eliminated in the future. If we are still beating ourselves midway through year 2 of the Sanchez/RR era maybe then I'll panic a little. Right now, the defense is outstanding, the offense has the players, Sanchez just needs to ride out the learning curve.
there was another play where Evans split the two of them on the same side of the field they were on. It was at Buffalo as well.
This is correct. Some people think we are actually a .500 caliber team though. That is wrong. You are definitely right though, we should be 7-1, 6-2. Hell, all the games we lost were very winnable, even the saints game.
no he's saying they should be a top 10 team. the Jets can't get any worse than their record says they are - meaning the talent on this team could never be at 3-5 or worse.
I agreee with your comments totally. Thats why the Giants are built solidly & after watching Maimi..I see there improved line depth. Jets' weakness : OFFENSE: Offensive line, better than it usta be, but still needs improvement. Mangold is a rock, Damien Woody & Brandon Moore at Guards. Brick must improve & a RT is definetly needed. Better depth is also needed. FB also is needed. Last...But not least...Shotty is good as a offensive coordinator asst, but not as the sole leader in-charge of the offense. If he leaves, Jets would still be fine, if not better off. Jets' need to move towards power-football. Shotty coaches like an asshole. He always tries to outsmart the other team & it usually backfires. With Shotty's absence, Jets offense will improve...IMO. These 1,2,& 3 yard passes have to stop. These passes on 3rd & 1, & 3rd & 2 are rediculous. He's probally better suited right now to be a great QB coach, not OC. DEFENSE: Jets have poor planning & don't realisticlly evaluate there own talent very well. Can't have only 1 NT on roster & have a successful 3-4 defense. Injuries have to be calculated into planning. Hopefully Rex Ryan has more input & better judgement for next season. This will be interesting for me to see. THe phrase "Building Blocks" is used for a reason. DE's....real 3-4 DE's needed. Jets need at least 2-3 new DE's {315lb - 325lb} please. Bigg Guys. They can also keep what they have, but have to add to the mix with some new players. LB's: Another ILB with speed, power, & pop needed.{Urlacher type}. OLB....Gholston was supposed to be the guy, but he has turned into another Byran Thomas type. Jets may never see return on inveatment. Pass rushers needed. 2 new OLB's with speed needed. 2 CB's & a hard-hitting Safety needed. Overall improved speed on defense needed. ST's: Punter is needed...Punters can influence field position & a good punter is a weapon. Miami has a very good strong legged punter, made Jets punter look real bad. Jets have problems with depth because Jets keep trading away there draft picks. Its very hard to build a team when you only draft 2-3-4 players per draft. Jets front office have to learn how to trade there fading veterans for draft picks. Gotta keep building !!! :jets: :up: Well this is my take on "State Of The Jets Address"....:beer:
Some people might even think we are a sub 500 team. Since being 8 and 3 last year we are 5 and 9 since. That is the sign of a team going in the wrong direction. Opening the season 3 and 0 and going 4 and 4 is another sign of a team going in the wrong direction. Teams that are goig somewhere get better as the season moves along they don't get worse. Team is rebuilding, get used to it we need better players on both sides of the ball and we need more depth to have above average special teams over the course of a season. We also need our QB to develop and it will take 2 to 4 years. By the time this team is a serious competitor guys like Faneca, Jones and Ellis will be gone.
We just need to be more consistent. The Jets have the 2nd best defense in football, a great running game, and a rookie QB who has played well in 6/8 games. But in the offseason, I'd like to see us replenish our lines. Faneca is weak at LG, so we should Draft someone in the 2nd round to replace him. We could definitely use a 3rd WR so if someone like DeMaryius Thomas if he falls to the 2nd round pick. On the defensive side, our biggest need is on the line. Terrence Cody, Arthur Jones, Allen Bailey, or Brandon Graham would all be good picks for us in the 1st. Whether it's NT or DE, the Jets need to go DL in the first. We could also use pass-rushing help at OLB, so if there's nobody there who is worth a 1st on the DL and we can get a guy like Oghobaase or Wotton in the 2nd, I've warmed up to taking Sergio Kindle.
Another 3-4 NT? The problem is that they are a rare breed. Look at Jenkins. Incredibly big, extremely strong and very quick. He knows how to use his feet and hands instinctively. Players like him who command double teams are VERY hard to find. They also tend to get injured being in that sort of traffic all the time. It isn't that Jenkins is brittle, although he does have some back trouble, not unusual for men of his size, Ellis rolled up on his leg. That was not him brealing down... like Haynesworth, when you play like that you get buried in bodies often. I haven't done any research on it, but didn't the following teams lose their 4-3 under NT and 3-4 NT's? SD Ravens Washington Ngata (spelling... Jax or Car?) Jets Again, try to avoid ripping me for this if I made an error, but the point is, these types of players do tend to get injured. They are also very hard to find. Players like Pouha can play, but they can't anchor a D the way Jenkins and Haynesworth can. I think it's time for B Thomas to go away. He does most things as a JAG. Average in coverage, run support and pass rushing. In no particular order, I think we need: LG (Faneca is getting long in the tooth) SS CB (Sheppard is done, Lowery is just OK) DE NT FB OLB (BT) Maybe an RB. TJ is due a roster bonus in March. Leon and his injury/contract staus is a question. TJ and Greene don't compliment each other. Also a slot receiver... I thought Stuckey was the answer, but I can live with losing him for Edwards...LOL. Maybe Woodhead can be a slot. I've had enough of B Smith, he and Wright are valuable ST players, but that's it. Truth is, this team has no GAPING holes. It needs to be more consistant. One week it's Sanchez's rookie mistakes, another the D goes to sleep on the final drive, yet another the ST's falls on it's face. I really don't see in game coaching issues or play calling as the problem. Even Westhoff's unit has had it's problems. Bottom line... new system on D, rookie QB, rookie HC.... it will take another year to come together.
No kidding! We need to get some line depth on BOTH sides of the ball. Our coach as well as QB will get better game by game. The building blocks are in place for a great run for the next few years. Last year we had very little injurys, this year Bad karma has paid us back! This will be a good team though for the next few years, and, with a little luck, our record should be much better as well. No season ending rant tossing here, just trying to enjoy what we have.
Besides the Obvious NT... These two positions are over looked PR, KOR... With good returns we could change the pace of a game tremendously instead of starting on the 20yard like on kick offs or getting 10 yards on a punt return.
you mean like getting Leon back? those aren't huge areas of need. and if you get 10 yards on a punt return you're a top 10 return team. The Jets are at 8.2, so 5 more feet isn't that much.
It was impossible for me not to get caught up in the excitement after our first few games. At the time it looked like we might be another surprise example like the Ravens, or the Falcons from last season. However, as reality has reared its ugly head, I've resigned myself to accept this team for what it is, instead of what I wish it was. Looking at what has happened in 3 of the 4 losses, it's clear that we are one of those teams that after the season is over, every "expert" on the planet is going to say how close we are to being a top team. Those three losses by less than a TD points to execution, more so than depth, players and coaches IMHO. With most of the team intact next year, add a couple of versatile position players (plus a serious pass rush), and this will be a team to be reckoned with. A couple of lucky breaks, and we'd be there now.
IMO we should use our first 3 picks next year (rounds 1,2,and 4) on OL and DL. We need bodies on that DL. I think we have no GREAT need anywhere else other than OL and DL. In late rounds 6 and 7 I say you should ALWAYS reach for a very talented player who got passed over because of other issues--small risk in those rounds with possible huge upside. For example Parcells grabbed Jason Ferguson with the second of his SEVENTH round picks in 1997--Ferg was still on the board because he tested positive for mj at the combine. He's been a very good player for many years/teams and clearly better than the guy Parcells took at the beginning of the SECOND round that same draft (Rick Terry).
What do you mean by bad? I do believe we(jets) have the talents on Offense and Defense. It's just that we need to work together and believe in each other starts from the owner to the water boy!
Rex needs to learn some basic clock and game management skills. He never knows when to use his timeouts, when to throw the challenge flag and when to kick an XP instead of going for 2.
I enjoyed several of the posts made in this thread, and normally the OP's question is a fair one. But this has been a season marked by inconsistency rather than specific absences of talent here and there. If by talent one means what a player is capable of when playing with focus and having practiced well, the overall level of talent is probably somewhat higher than the team's record at this point. Inconsistency. The problem I think with analysis of the roster right now is that we have not really seen enough of a PATTERN of inconsistency in individual players to make a decision to replace them. Take Keller - he certainly was inconsistent in the Buffalo game, and didn't show all that much against Oakland. But he looked pretty good last week. What do we make of that? Just as a team that is .500 can be viewed as a disappointment, it's not really a situation that calls for wholesale changes. Rather than focusing on individual players as the reason why the team is not doing better, I think the reality is that what happens in the upcoming off season will very much depend on what happens from here on out. And that right now is anybody's guess. If the Jets can win their next two, we will know quite a bit more than we do right now, and many of the problems perceived today will look better. But if the Jets can't win both, I don't see how they do much with this season. Then we'll probably have a better idea than today what is ailing the team. In short, I want more info.
