Steven A Has A Point

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  1. 6-10 once again

    6-10 once again Well-Known Member

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    I look at his potential, his potential is to be a franchise qb with a big time arm. I'd rather have that potential then a stud at a much less important position.

    The main point here is passing on Watson, a guy who has won at every level. Our front office looked at this winner and essentially called him a loser who wasn't good enough to be "the guy" and now the Texans are reaping the benefits
     
  2. 101GangGreen101

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    Potential is a word that can get you fired. How many players truly live up to their potential? Personally, I think Mahomes floor is very very low. Meaning he's not a contributor at this stage of the game.

    Watson, 6 games in, very impressive. However we don't know how he would do on the Jets. There were reasons why teams didn't draft him, and specifically it's the arm strength. Don't discount safety, it is a very important position, not as important as QB obviously.
     
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  3. WhySheldonWhy?

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    So should the rams have taken a qb in the first round after Goff was awful last year? Not saying he is a star but is playing much better this year. I think your logic is kind of flawed.
     
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  4. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    I don't think management was more confident in their quarterbacks as much as they just did not see Watson as the answer to the quarterback question.

    I wanted him badly so I don't get it either. But as @BrowningNagle said, we can't crown him yet.
     
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  5. RIPJimLeonhard

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    Would be a more fair point if Jamal hadn't showed so much promise and potential already, we got what looks to be a solid player with our pick, so it's hard to say we should have gone with someone else.
     
  6. Mainejet

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    Steven A doesn't know his ass from his elbow. Deshaun Watson is a good player hus far, but it's still early. Lets see what happens going forward. And just the same, Mac's draft was great even without Watson.
     
  7. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    Similar to Dak Prescott, Watson landed in a perfect situation for him. I'm not saying for sure that both would fail as Jets QB's, but I don't think either would be doing as good as they currently are. I like the Adams pick and I like giving Hack a chance. Time will tell if it was the right more or not.
     
  8. 6-10 once again

    6-10 once again Well-Known Member

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    No he was a 1st overall pick you give a 1st overall pick time to figure it out, they invested a lot into him. The jets had no excuse to not pick a quarterback. Our front office looked at Watson and believed he wasn't good enough, and they were dead wrong. There is no defending Adams over Watson just my opinion
     
  9. WhySheldonWhy?

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    I hear you and don't mean to insult. I think that Adams was pretty much as can't miss a prospect in this draft as anyone player available. Watson was the 3rd QB off of the board so I would imagine that the league wasn't as big on him as a lot of people are now after seeing his current body of work. Not saying that you didn't want him at the time, just saying that at the time I think many felt that Adams was a great pick (Mayes pissed a ton of people off but right now the combo is looking like an elite duo for years to come).
     
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  10. Attackett

    Attackett Well-Known Member

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    Nah he only threw the ball 49mph at the combine so clearly he can’t play QB in this league.


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  11. ColoradoContrails

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    My point exactly! If Hack and Petty are't good enough to beat out a 38 year old mediocre - at best - QB, then why in the hell didn't they draft a QB???? This is what really concerns me about keeping Macc and Bowles. Of course maybe Macc was planning on tanking by taking this approach, or maybe he was really in love with one the QBs that might be coming out in 2018, but I really don't think either of those are the case. I think the answer is that Macc really misfired on his assessment of Hack, and thought he had more there than he does. I think Petty was slated to be the 3rd string to McCown and then Hack, but when Hack stunk in preseason that ruined that plan. Now I think he's trying to get as many games out o McCown as he can, and he doesn't want to risk having Petty show that even he's better than Hackenberg.

    I really hope I'm wrong and somehow Macc turns out to be a genius. I'm SO sick and tired of waiting for this team to get its shit together!
     
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    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

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    I know I'm in the minority on this, but I would DEFINITELY taken Mahomes or Watson with that first pick, and said so at the time. Sure Adams is very good, but even if he becomes great, no Safety is going to turn a franchise around like a QB can.
     
  13. NYJetsO12

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    They have Alex Smith to roll with ..Andy Reid knew what he was doing when he got him..

    Plus he can throw the football half the field while he is on his knees...can you do that 101.???

    Hahahahahaha
     
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    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

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    I don't think Macc's track record guarantees that he can accurately value QBs (or anyone else for that matter). He's had some hits and misses, but I wouldn't say he's an expert.

    He didn't need to wind up with 4 bad QBs - he could've drafted Mahomes or Watson, signed McCown, and kept Petty or Hack, not both.
     
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  15. Walt White

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    Not sure about 101 but Geno Smith can...Cutler too
     
  16. NYJetsO12

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    Plus 100

    Mac was bullied by Toilet Bowles to build HIS defense and jack his resume

    If any of you guys don't thinks politics and a Coaches ambition don't influence a draft...think again

    Especially when you have a woosie owner like Johnson who gives equal power to a GM and HC?..dumb move imo

    I bet Mac.would have done better with his own hire for HC
     
  17. Walt White

    Walt White Well-Known Member

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    Holy fucking shit OMFG
     
  18. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    Ahaha ha

    Well maybe I exaggerate a bit but I bet TB talked him into those two safeties...Mac is also vulnerable cause he would have to admit to Toilet that his ability to draft a QB is compromised given the Sackenberg fiasco
     
  19. Mogriffjr

    Mogriffjr Well-Known Member

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    Someone said would Watson do just as good as he is doing in Houston...Well not sure...But the reason why BOB went from Savage to Watson was because how bad the OL was, trying to sustain a pocket for a pocket passing QB. Honestly with what we've seen from McCown, Watson could easily do the same, he just wouldn't have the dynamic pass options that he has in Houston.
     
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  20. Walt White

    Walt White Well-Known Member

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    I'll give you 10-1 odds on that. Just show me where there's any facts on that.

    You guys reading this nonsense into what's happened inside the war room and their approach is utter fucking bollocks
     
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