Moss could ride the pine for the whole year and the Pats will still be killers this year, and still the team to beat. I hate to say it, but Moss was really a touch of icing on a masterpiece. He can only add; he can not subtract; or little I say. BTW, I am definitey not a Pats fan.
Wait, so now Moss is malcontent from Day 1. Sheesh, thanks for letting us know. I love how you guys know not only will he be a disruptive force, but the exact day it will happen. You should become a psychic, :smile:
All I'm saying is that it's possible. He's been a malcontent and the major story around his team everywhere he's been, and just because you have Bellichick, Brady, and a few Super Bowl rings doesn't mean that that can't or won't happen. You're calling us all biased, and I'm sure we are. I know I'm hoping for the worst. But you're biased saying there's zero risk involved and that nothing can go wrong. I know a 4th round pick is a minimal cost, but it's still a risk you didn't need to take. Stallworth, Welker, Gaffney, and Washington is as good a receiving corps as it was when you were winning Super Bowls, and it's definitely an upgrade over last year.
the thing that some of us are missing is that the pats went to the AFC championship game WITHOUT all of the new additions at receiver. not ass licking the pats here just stating the facts.. jil
Pats are the odds on favorite to win it all. No question about it. Just saying that there's no risk at all here is ignoring Moss's past.
No, I am saying there is no risk on "the books" for the Pats. As a player, how do you not do that deal knowing there is no risk. Belichick called all the Pats captains before agreeing to the deal, so as far as the locker room goes, he cleared it there. Now, either we get a good WR, or cut his ass. How does a team that came within a catch of the Super Bowl turn that down? They don't. :up:
Oooh, he called all the Pat's captains, so it's all calred in there. Got it. So when Moss calls Brady an A-hole after week 5 for not throwing it to him when he was open, that all will be well, because Belly cleared it with the captains and all back in April...got it:up: You're right, Dirty, that there is no on the books go, there is no Moss risk. You're "on the books" risk is with Thomas, a 30 year old LB that you gave millions in guarantees to just at an age when LBs slow down considerably...
What's with the attitude? All I did was tell you that Belichick called his team captains before OK'ing the deal. If Mangini did the same, what, you wouldn't think that was a good move? I guess I am an idiot for even bringing it up. Who knew? I thought that was a smart decision on his part to get his captains OK on it. And, so now AD is a bad signing. I can't keep up with you guys. How many posts away are we from Brady is a bad QB?
Here's my prediction on Moss. He'll do well in the preseason, get the starting job, do well for 4 or 5 games. Everyone will be writing about how great a teammate he's been, how awesome he is for the Pats offense, how hard it is for DB's to cover him. Then something will happen, be it an injury or some stupid incident or a loss where it looked like he didn't try hard enough. He'll say something like that he plays when he needs to and get all defensive. He won't be productive for a few games, then he'll get fined by the team or the league soon enough. He'll ride the bench for a while and just become a distraction. You can take Randy Moss out of the Oakland Raiders, but you can't take the Oakland Raiders out of Randy Moss.
because the patriots had such a lack of success with Lbs that age, he's the same age bruschi, johnson etc were when they were winning Superbowls. Going to Thomas is just a sign of a weak arguement. Just because you are angry about the move doesn't mean you need to be a prick about it.
...I brought up Thomas because he claimed Moss was a smart financial decision. The difference with how the Pat's handled Bruschi and Johnson is that they did not resign them at age 30 to a six or seven year deal with many millions in gaurentees....no one's being a prick, jus debating. Perhaps you can give me lessons in proper posting diplomacy, as you seem to have a grasp on the perfect etiquette one must achieve...
...and now for an impartial third party view, here's what two football analysts at ESPN are saying about Moss to the Pats... From ESPN.com... 1. Will Randy Moss make a positive impact in New England? Merril Hoge: Past history says he won't, but I actually believe he will make a positive impact with the Patriots. Despite making some stupid moves in the past, he's a smart guy who understands that people remember how you finish a career, not how you started it. This is a chance for him to change his legacy. He is going to be playing for team with an opportunity to win the Super Bowl, not just make the playoffs, like when he was with the Vikings and Raiders. Joe Theismann: This is an amazing trade for the Patriots because they now have a guy on the outside who can make big plays for them consistently. The Patriots will smartly throw to him eight or nine times a game, which may not seem like much until you realize the talent they have on their team. That will enable Moss to feel like he's a part of the offense and get him going. He's going to have a monster season.
They will regret getting Moss, unless every ball is thrown to him. On a second note, here's wishing ya'll a good season and thirdly ya'll are in the best position in the AFC east to dethrone the pats, so destroy them!