Tankathon - 2021 Edition

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Brook!, Sep 26, 2021.

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  1. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Right, you are saying they will be in the playoff race, which is pretty broad, I know. But even still, Indianapolis for example is 9th in the AFC right now. They are in the "playoff race" but they are behind 2 teams. And Indy is 7-6 with a +88 points differential.

    The Jets are 3-9 with a -150 points diff. (not to mention they were blown out by Indy) It is a huge uphill battle just to get where Indy is.... and again, Indy is 9th in the AFC
     
  2. MaximusD163

    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

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    All I’m saying is we won’t be making Tankathon threads by mid November, to me those are expectations. Aside from something like a Zach Wilson injury, I would be very surprised if the Jets are an easy out the way they have been. I expect 7 to 9 wins next year.
     
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    Best in the world is OUT. Should be interesting how they play there
     
  4. JetsUK

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    you think it will be even earlier? have to say I probably agree

    edit - sorry - saw this follow up after -

    I think every team in the AFC East is going to improve at least as much if not more than the Jets as such I don't see us getting close to being competitive in the division and so I think we will be out of the race just as early if not earlier unless Wilson becomes a Mahomes level QB in the next couple of years - basically everything is going to turn on whether Wilson develops into the best QB in the division - which seems very unlikely at the moment
     
  5. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The Jets aren't going to be in the playoff race after September for years.

    Bad team design and completely myopic planning will drive you out early every year. The next time the Jets are in the playoff hunt it will be several unknown homegrowns developing and driving the conversation. Those guys will be the reason the Jets suddenly have enough talent to compete.

    Management on the other hand will screw us over and over again with high-priced free agents because despite the Jets track record nobody at that level understands how badly they are screwing the pooch every season.
     
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    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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  7. CotcheryFan

    CotcheryFan 2018 ROTY Poster Award Winner

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    The offense has Carter, Moore, and AVT as building blocks. The defense has Q and Hall. That's not enough, but there will be additions to both units in the offseason. It all comes down to how Wilson develops.
     
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  8. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The Jets marketing team loves you.
     
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  9. AllHackettsSuck

    AllHackettsSuck Well-Known Member

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    Now do the rest of the division.
     
  10. AllHackettsSuck

    AllHackettsSuck Well-Known Member

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    Anyone know where I can find the 2022 thread?
     
  11. CotcheryFan

    CotcheryFan 2018 ROTY Poster Award Winner

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    I did say more pieces need to be added and didn't include Wilson or Becton for the offense. It isn't a black or white thing.
     
  12. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    We need a team at this point. Adding a piece here or there isn't going to do anything for us.

    The argument for the trade up for AVT last year basically boiled down to how many draft picks could possibly make the team?

    The answer of course was every damn one the Jets could get their hands on. The Jets could draft 15 players next year and all of them could make this losing, untalented roster.

    They could add a superstar at virtually any position and they'd still be a losing, untalented team.

    DeShaun Watson went 4-12 with the Texans in 2020. Matt Ryan has pulled the feat off a couple of times in Atlanta.

    This team is like 15 real players away from .500
     
  13. CotcheryFan

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    The 2020 class having one above average contributor this year is a big reason why. I believe Douglas might have swung for the fences too much in a year where he should've played in safe. He could've gone with Wirfs instead of Becton, a more polished WR over Mims, a second OL earlier than round 4, etc....

    The defense needs a pass rush, LB help, and competence in the secondary outside of Hall. I bet that side gets a ton of attention in 2022 draft the way offense did early this year.

    By 2023, both sides should have enough talent to be competent. There will still be holes, but every team has a hole if you look close enough. The question will be will those holes be major enough to deter this team from contending for a playoff spot. If Wilson doesn't take a serious leap, the answer will be a big yes.
     
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  14. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    You could have said exactly what you said above for every season since 2017. We're still waiting.

    Why?

    Because the Jets have no clues at the management level of how to build a successful team. They have lots of ideas about building a roster for any given year but no clue as to how to build a team.

    That's why we're in the 9th year of the 2012 rebuild.
     
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    CotcheryFan 2018 ROTY Poster Award Winner

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    We haven't had a draft class with three or more long term contributors since 2006. That caught up with the team in 2011 and we haven't recovered. 2015 was fun until the last game, but that team was clearly not built to last.

    We need a few classes like the Saints haul in 2017 or what the Colts got in 2018.
     
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  16. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Well, we're not going to get those trading 2 extra 3rd round picks to move up 9 spots in the 1st.
     
  17. CotcheryFan

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    I doubt that happens in 2022. In fact, I'll say that I oppose trading up in next year's draft even if it means missing out on Thibodeaux and Hutchinson.
     
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    We got new management 3 years ago so idk how anything from 2012 is applicable.
     
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  19. NYJetsO12

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    Well ..you know the more "likes" I gave your Posts the Depressed I was getting lol

    Let see if JD has some stradegy shift in 2022 draft

    Also how about constructing the future FA contracts with 75% incentives and 25 guaranteed $ for starters?
     
  20. Jets79

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    that would be great but no player would take it, so we’d be signing nobody
     
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