The Austin/Cromartie simulcatch

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  1. Odd Neck Stems

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    Check when Cro's shoulder hit the ground.

    Edit: fact is, the refs, as shown in the GB game and in this game, generally just give the ball to whoever has it in the end, if it looks close.
     
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  2. JetBlue

    JetBlue Well-Known Member

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    who said they were synonyms? clearly I did not.

    you're absolutely wrong in understanding the rule. in this case, both players had control of the ball when the act of clearly touching both feet, or any other part of his body other than his hand(s), to the ground inbounds occurred.

    you are ignoring the first part of the rule that states "If a pass is caught simultaneously by two eligible opponents, and both players retain it, the ball belongs to the passers..."

    the pass has to be caught first, thus inherently meaning possession has to be established. without possession there is no catch, and the rule require a catch to take place.

    Cromartie may have had control of the ball first, but he did not have possession of it when it occurred, meaning he did not complete all the acts that constitute a catch and thus possession, thus he had not caught the ball yet. both players had possession of the ball when the act of a catch was completed, thus it belonged to the offense.

    the rule does not require that they obtain control at the same time, just that they both have control at the same time when the act of a catch is completed. in every simultaneous catch someone is going to have control of it first, even if just by the tiniest micro-second.
     
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  3. JfaulkNYJ

    JfaulkNYJ New Member

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    What the fuck is the rule? How is this different than that Packers game last year? Didn't the tie go to the offensive player? It didn't for us last year TWICE against the Packers, and Sanchez got credited with BS INT's.

    I think it should be a TD for Austin, but what da heck is the rule?
     
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  4. Klaus Casanova

    Klaus Casanova New Member

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    The rule according to Al Michaels was new for the 2011 season, and most likely due to protests by the New York Jets after that game versus Green Bay.
     
  5. Endlessly Counting

    Endlessly Counting Well-Known Member

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    My main complaint was that despite the big deal made about reviweing all scoring plays, it does not seem as though this play was reviwed and it seemed to me that Cromartie had the ball when he hit the ground.
     
  6. DisgruntledLionFan

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    I thought the Packers game had to do with that stupid maintain possession throughout the process rule that boned CJ last year.
     
  7. ace_o_spades

    ace_o_spades New Member

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    Don't really need a rulebook to know that was a TD for Austin
     
  8. 624

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    The rule had no effect on those plays. They were called on the field by the ref, with no conclusive evidence to overturn because of the players' bodies in the way of the ball.
     
  9. ScotsJet

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    I thought Cro had possession in the endzone before Austin interrupted it, but regardless, I thought EVERY scoring play was reviewed now? That one clearly was close enough for the umpire to take a personal interest, but they let the Cowboys rush the XP. Didn't like that.
     
  10. BadgerOnLSD

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    Cro should have broken Austin's fingers.

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  11. southparkfanciz

    southparkfanciz Active Member

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    If Cro actually learned to not be a bitch, that should've been an easy INT. Cro has always had problems with his physicalness.
     
  12. 624

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    You have to give Austin some credit on that play, he made a hell of an effort to come down with it....he earned it Cromartie didn't just give it away.
     
  13. guinness77

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    It's impossible to argue that call. It was a TD. I agree with SPF, he needs to make that play. Cromartie had the better chance at the ball and still didn't end up with it. Inexcusable, to me.
     
  14. CONN-JET.2.0.3.

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    Can't believe no one has posted this yet...

    Who else saw Cro stick his finger right in Austins gooch area in a desperate to get the ball lma0 I was laughing so hard. Poor Cro....Poor Miles lol. Can't find any pictures yet haha

    EDIT ok the best I could get is a screen shot...
    what the fuck was he thinking LMAO. I bet they still making fun of him for that one.


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  15. kaboom

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    It cracks me up as to how the "random outcome" of this play influences so many's view of the game played by the QB, Romo.

    I say random, but I suspect that if the same situation were to occur 100 times that the result of that play is an interception more often than a TD. Change Romo's stat accordingly and give him 1 more interception and 1 less TD pass and pundits such as Colin Cowherd, Fatcessa and even owner Jerry Jones, all of whom were trumpeting how Romo was picking the Jets apart would have all likely changed or toned down their message all based on the outcome of a play that Romo had absolutely no influence on the related outcome.
     
  16. ajetsfan4ever

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    the more I watch it, the more confused I get, cromartie clearly has possession of the ball when he is down, so shouldn't he be down by contact?

    and what about ALL td's being reviewable by upstairs? why didn't they review it??????
     

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