The future is bright, fear not!

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  1. NJJets

    NJJets Well-Known Member

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    Someone on this forum insists he can only run in straight lines.
     
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    tomdeb Well-Known Member

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    It is insane that Glenn won't even try to change some personnel. Josh Reynolds is a retread's retread on his 5th team and Glenn starts him every week--he is not our future. Why are they holding on to Allen Lazard? Why does Tony Adams still start? He is terrible! Why aren't all of our draft picks from 2024 playing more--good grief, they can't do worse than 0-5 giving up 30 points a game? I would not be surprised if Woody fires Glenn after one season. The defensive scheme Glenn plays, and the personnel he assigns to it, are NOT working at all!! Zero takeaways in five games.
    Glenn talks tough, but he coaches like Robert Saleh-- a friend of the players without the balls to bench any of the overpaid dead weight.
     
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    Jets79 Well-Known Member

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    It’s a good point…like seriously, how much worse could it get? We’re giving up 30 per game…so what, are we afraid of giving up 40? We’re the only winless team…so what, are we afraid of losing?

    If so, what does that change? At least you get some kids who have the potential to be the future some experience.
     
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  4. Snoopdogg

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    Look at the Patsies as the latest example of why you're wrong. They went from a horrible O Line and weak defense to a credible defense and a top 10 pass blocking unit in one year, with only one high draft pick and no high profile FA signings.

    Nothing matters in today's NFL if you don't have a functional QB. With one, all things are possible.
     
  5. FloridaMan

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    It's the worst defense I've ever seen.
     
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  6. LAJet

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    Pure nonsense to think the QB is the number one priority and the answer to our prayers to turn this team around. First and foremost is revamping a D that is far from NFL caliber.
     
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    NJJets Well-Known Member

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    We have literally revamped our D about 10 times in the last 15 years. We have gone from shit to top 5-10 countless times. It’s easy to revamp a D. What we haven’t had during that time? A bonafide franchise QB.
     
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    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    It’s not saying a lot because our offenses have been god awful since the dawn of time, but this is the best offensive infrastructure we are trotting out there for a young QB since the Sanchize came to town.

    Taking 4th round QB’s and signing Josh McCown types to bridge sounds like a pass for me when we finally have a bonafide #1 receiver, a young malleable tightend (that actually can catch AND block) and two young tackles that seem to be good players.
     
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    REVISion Well-Known Member

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    Huh?

    QB is the most important position by multiples. It's basically a prerequisite to be good. We had a very good defense the last few seasons and were still an awful team because we didn't have a QB/OC.
     
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    Yet our offense is far better than the D right now. If you can’t hold a lead I don’t care who is under center. It would be another example of screwing up a young QB like we have done with every single one before.
     
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    We are back to shit yet again. Start building the trenches before you throw a young QB out to fail.
     
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    Hold a lead? We've had 1 touchdown before halftime this entire season, and it was in week 1.

    Over the past few years, we've been awful with a good defense and we've been awful with a good running game. The common denominator is a bad QB/passing game.
     
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    What was our excuse last year with A HOF QB behind center. This team has much bigger needs than just a QB. We freaking lead the league in turn overs. A running game that fumbles at the one. Is so easy to dump it all on JF.
    Turn overs, penalties and bad D are the overarching causes. Our passing game is less than average I and totally agree, but no QB can overcome the root causes we have.
     
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    Was one of the NFL's best 12 months ago before Coach Saleh was fired.



     
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    REVISion Well-Known Member

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    We were a below average passing team last year even with Rodgers.

    We have many needs, I do agree with that. I just think QB is far and away the biggest need.
     
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    I feel until this leadership actually shows us how to properly develop players and put them in a position to succeed I fear selecting a QB and actually playing him day one will be another failed experiment. They can’t even get out of their own way with vets. I am hoping that before we select the QB, we fix the infrastructure or system we deploy around him.
     
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    I agree our QB infra (coaching) is awful but we can't really operate like this in reality.

    For one thing, you don't just suddenly choose to roster a good QB and then go buy one at the store once the infra is in place. They're available very infrequently and you have to take a shot on one when you can. As bad as we've been, having a top 5 pick is really rare.

    We need to stop looking at our QB issue as either a player or coaching thing. It's both. We need to draft a good QB and we need to have the coaching staff in place to make any QB's life as easy as possible. We keep whiffing on draft picks and hiring defensive coordinators and then we wonder why we've been the worst team and offense in the NFL over the last 15 years.

    People say our current run of ineptitude and missing the playoffs is unbelievable but it's really not. As an organization, we keep trying a strategy that hasn't been the optimal way to win for 25 years (run game+defense). We aren't even playing the same game as other teams.

    It's one thing to try to do the right thing (develop a passing offense) and fail, it's another to not even attempt to do the right thing. We haven't even attempted to do things the right away. That's why we never even luck into a good team.
     
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    Good points, although so far is so bad, we haven’t even executed the old strategy right ( run plus strong D) Let’s hope the GM/CS are savvy enough to do all the research needed and make the top pick count, especially at QB, something we have failed at multiple times.
     
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    Sorry to rain on your parade... but unless you change some of these position coaches, nothing will work, i.e., I mean you got guy coaching OL who never coached OL... WTF, The you have the DC who seems to be as delusional as the HC with respect to schemes and personnel....

    What a cluster F...
     
  20. Footballgod214

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    We drafted our QB of the future with the 18th overall pick in Chad Pennington.
    We drafted our QB of the future with the 5th overall pick in Mark Sanchez.
    We drafted our QB of the future with the 3rd overall pick in Sam Darnold.
    We drafted our QB of the future with the 2nd overall pick in Zach Wilson.
    Meanwhile, we passed on Lamar, Mahomes, Josh, Marino, and SO many others.

    We Might wanna find a way to make things work with the players we already got.
     

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