The "Who is our Next Offensive Coordinator" Thread.

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  1. Sundayjack

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    Only part of my point, though. I think failure is always relevant. But, as an OC, he ran Gruden's offensive system, and I'd even venture a guess that Gruden had a strong hand in play calling. At the same time, Gannon was reviving his career and morphing into a league MVP. I think you have to credit Callahan with not fucking any of that up, but I don't see him earning any great reputation as an offensive coordinator. I'd take him over a new system, for sure. I just think we're taking a leap of faith on a guy who hasn't really earned the credit he gets.
     
  2. Zach

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    Are you sure? I cannot tell, frankly.

    Drew Brees, the QB that set the whole league on fire, was benched under Brian's tutelage, and that situation basically forced the Charger organization to draft Rivers. I say, if Brees had to stay under Brian's wing for 2 or 3 more years, he'd end up just like Kellen. My point being, it's not Kellen's fault that he sucks now - at least I don't see it that way, and I have a good reason not to as well. (Pennington's best year came with 17 TD/16 int performance, if at all)
     
  3. NoodleArm

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    How about putting him in there as the QB Coach? Chad knows what it takes to be a smart QB - he just lacked the arm strength. And with his Rhodes Scholar-level intelligence and recent experience from working with Weis, Hackett, Heimerdinger, and Henning, Chad may actually be able to teach something to the rookie. I think its a serious consideration if his latest comeback attempt falls through.
     
  4. JetFanInPA

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    Whoever it is needs to be good with developing QBs... I'd say give Bill Callahan a chance, but I don't know what his track record is with young QBs..
     
  5. All Gas No Shake

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    youre right, the raiders was a very good team but by 03 that team was ancient. after injuries to those old players callahan made it clear that the team had to get younger. how do you think a team of veterans felt about that? of course they quit on him. but remember, gannon was the nfl mvp when callahan was calling the plays, not gruden
     
  6. Sundayjack

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    Because I was curious. One thought on Bill Callahan and his tour with the Raiders:

     
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    All QBs develop differently but I don't see an NFL starter when I look at Clemens. he has poor mechanics, poor footwork, he looks scared out there. I think he can be a decent back up and play in short spurts but I don't think he's a starter in this league.
     
  8. supersonic

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    There are lots of great OC's that are not good HC's. Maybe Callahan is not a good HC. He was a good OC however and that is what we are looking for.
     
  9. Big Blocker

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    It is more accurate to say he was an OC on a successful team that had a very effective, offense-oriented HC. How much credit he should get for that, I think, depends on how well he stood when that HC left. It is not merely the Peter Principle at work here, where he was promoted over his ability. It is ALSO that Gruden deserves much of the credit for running that O.

    The Jets are set up quite differently than the Raiders were. Ryan is not the offense-oriented coach that Gruden is. How would Callahan do, coming in after Schott's system has been in place for four years? Would he change it, and if so where and how? If he doesn't change it, what's the point?

    What is Callahan's track record implementing his own offense?

    He really has none.
     
  10. Jersey Joe 67

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    Mike Martz. This way Sanchez can throw 50x a game and break his rookie record of 20+ interceptions
     
  11. supersonic

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    If we are going to judge him when the HC left, his team had the #1 ranked offense and they went to the SB. But he was not really the OC then. Why not judge him for when he was the OC and he was in the top 10 each year.

    Every situation is different, the guy held the position, nobody really knows the exact specifics of the situation besides members of that team. The guy obviously did good work there based on his standings and the fact that they gave him the HC job.
     
  12. DaftGreen

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    That's why I'm for bringing him in as a backup to Sanchez. You never hear of Chad with feuds with other QBs. The guy was always on thin ice here and always a team player.
     

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