Come on, dude. The kool-aid is tasty, but chugging can be lethal. Even for me, only ~11 years in, it's going to take more than a 9-7 season and a nice playoff run to change my sentiment. Consistency changes attitudes, not one solid season and a lot of talking. Those teams you mention have that consistency, and rings to go along with it. Let's work on the consistency first. That said, I'm still behind Rex all the way. What he did with the defense last year was masterful, and I expect nothing less this year, Revis or not. But old habits die hard. I think a solid 2010 will have me officially on the culture-change bandwagon. Meanwhile, I'm heading into the season with hopes of a playoff berth and expecting nothing more. Not because we don't have the talent to go all the way (we do), but because history is mankind's greatest teacher.
My post never mentioned expectations, it only addressed the fact that I'm sick and tired of getting scared over little nonsense or having the "when is the other shoe going to drop?" mentality. I don't want a fanbase that's never confident in their team. Even if its a 6-10 team, we can say "let's go fuck up someone else's playoff chances and be the spoiler." That's the mentality I want. I'm tired of having the smallest signs of adversity scare everyone into thinking greatness can't be attained, and then complaining about how it was another Jets season and they were right for having those thoughts in the back of their head. Herm and Eric play scared. Rex doesn't and I don't. I've been screaming for a culture change for years, and I finally have a coach who shares the same mentality I do. You think Saints fans are scared anymore? No, because Sean Payton and Drew Brees changed the culture. Rex and Mark can do the same. Its not about drinking cool-aid. Its about not being a Same Old Pussy Jet Fan. I refuse to think this season is going to spiral out of control due to a few problems that every team goes through.
Hey, I don't mind the talk, but RR talking is not all I'm going to settle for. I too like to see the team finally have some swagger, but its all for nothing if they fall on their face when the season starts. Pre season or not, 3 TDs in 3 games outright sucks. Like others have pointed out - without Revis, this team is going to be on the razor's edge of winning and losing, and this kid QB absolutely has to get his act together if this team is going to do anything. After all the talk of his intensity and dedication during the off season, it can be nothing but disappointing to see his performance so far. It is preseason, granted, but unless he magically flips a switch against the Ravens, the air could go out of this season mighty mighty quickly. And that would be a shame.
haha, don't remind me of that. That Bills game where everyone was upset they won because it only gave the Jets a Pro Bowl Left Tackle. Fuckin scared retards.
How about a Cowboys offense that is normally in the top 5 every year has looked worse than the Jets and they have a Pro Bowl QB and a backfield that easily rivals the Jets RB corp. A case can easily be made that the Cowboys 3 RBs are better than the Jets RBs, but that's an argument for a different day. That team is also expected to make a SB run, and the SB is being played in their stadium. They aren't panicking, because they know its preseason. And they have looked fucking awful. If the Jets looked like them, then most of this scared fanbase would be pleading for Rex to shut the fuck up and just play out the season and pray everything works out and maybe, just maybe we can hope for a wildcard spot and then maybe gee I don't know surprise a team or two and then when the Jets finally face an opponent that can kick their ass we'll scream SOJ anyway just because its what we do......... holy shit I fuckin hate this fanbase. On a non rant note: Sanchez has completed his passes (64.5%) and has gone 1:1 for TD:INT. If we do use the preseason as a guide for the regular season, that means he would have made great progress from last year, and puts this team in position to contend for the division.
Your first sentence makes the point - THE COWBOYS OFFENSE HAS BEEN IN THE TOP 5 EVERY YEAR. In other words, they have shown they could do it. And, despite your stats, I don't think anyone that has watched the games could say that Sanchez has looked good. Like I said, it is preseason, and on opening night Sanchez could be lights out and go on to have a stellar year, and I will be first on line to kiss Rex Ryan's ass. But I'd like to see some results before I pucker up.
How about winning 2 road games in the playoffs and gaining a berth in the AFC championship with a rookie QB?
the point was if what the Cowboys offense did that here the fanbase would be crying and shitting themselves. The results showed that last year Rex can get this team to the AFC Chip game, and Sanchez can play on the road in January. Results have been given. I've watched the games and noticed Sanchez looks like a QB in his 2nd preseason. And the numbers, which I barely use, tell a story that says it's not all him. He has made shitty reads once a game and its cost him or nearly cost him. And that's all we seem to remember. I remember a QB checking down and using his RBs this preseason. But he gets no praise for doing something he never did last year. He's progressed, but let's not expect him to be a top 10 QB. Let's expect him to limit mistakes and find the open guy, even with the weapons he has around him.
Who said anything about being "scared"? I'm only suggesting you take facts and history into account before going off on a testosterone post. You say we'll be "fine", but fine isn't a 6-10 record - it's a losing record. Also, just to be clear, I never stated I was on board the SOJ mantra (though I see how it might have seemed that way). I'm just trying to be realistic in my expectations, and letting the team first establish itself as a stable contender before screaming SB, as if that's enough to get us there. And again, the Saints have Brees. A QB. An elite QB. Until Mark proves to be that, we're at an obvious disadvantage to the Saints, Colts, Pats, Chargers, etc. in terms of competing for a SB every year. So for this season, I'm keeping expectations in check. I've never cared for the SOJ phrase, nor adhered to the mentality of the fan who uses it. But I have felt crushed after going into seasons on highs, only to being crashed back to earth half-way through. I don't believe in the BS "this is the Jets destiny" notion, but I do believe in keeping s*** real for the sake of my emotional well-being. Take it as you will.
The 6-10 team was a hypothetical situation and how I'd like the fanbase to react to it. This team isn't going 6-10 barring tons of injuries. I never stated anything about records or how well the team is playing. I'm focusing on the mental side of the fanbase. I know this team and what they are and aren't. I understand Sanchez better than most of this board, considering I was one of the few who wanted him here in the first place and understood the patience needed with a rookie QB with little NCAA experience like he had. I know Sanchez isn't an elite QB, but what I was saying is that Rex and Mark can do what Payton and Brees did for that franchise. It took them 4 years to do it. I'll sign up for the same thing, but if it can get done sooner, fantastic. I'm not a fan who thinks that they Jets will be a SB contender every year. I'm simply a fan who refuses to bow to a disease that plagues a fanbase. My expectations are in check as well - contend for the division, and get a home playoff game. The Jets haven't played in January at home in nearly a decade.
One year is fun as a fan but it doesn't mean a whole lot; lots of teams are a flash in the pan for a year. Now I think Rex and Nacho can be good over time but I would wait and see. Plus if we're honest with ourselves last year was flukey; they should have lost to Indy in game 15 and if the opposing FG kickers don't go 0-5 in the first two playoff games there's a very, very good chance the Jets lose one of those games. They took advantage of the opportunities and that's what good teams do but you'd be hard pressed to say that last year's team was one of the truly elite teams in football.
If you can name me a team that isn't teetering right now, in terms of getting to the Super Bowl, then I'll take my definition back. Be sure though, the team you name has to be a pretty solid cinch to make the big game. I don't see anybody out there that fits the description so like the Jets every contender is teetering right now if making the Super Bowl is the criteria for that status.
Anything could happen, that's sports. My point is this is Rex, this is who we have now and this is the way he does it. The media is basing everything on last year's playoff run, not Rex. Like I said, Rex was talking shit with Belichick before he ever coached a game, the fact that the team backed it up late in the year is why more people are paying attentoin to what Rex says now.
Well that and the fact that he can be funny as hell when he's in free associating mode. The Boston writers would probably give their left nut/ovary to be able to cover Ryan every day instead of Belichik. If you look at the Boston beat writers closely you can see signs of the stress they go through all the time having to make shit up out of thin air because all Belichik does is grunt before he vanishes back into his hidey hole.
Rex football aka Jets football is defense and ground and pound So far this preseason despite the lack of TDs, we have shown to do those two things damn well, we are just fine, once the passing game gets on track we are running on full cylinders
Ground and pound is the base of the offense, and now that they have enough speed to the hole in their 1 and 2 runningbacks to force defenses to cheat the LOS it opens up the middle of the field.
