This is a talent issure. And that's on Tanny and Ryan

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  1. Ghost50

    Ghost50 Well-Known Member

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    Tanny doesnt know how to put together a team. let him count the beans only
     
  2. The 1985er

    The 1985er Well-Known Member

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    Those players are solid but they aren't stars. Coples and Hill have potential to be good but only time will tell.

    The only difference makers we have on this team are Revis, Holmes and Keller and all 3 are injured.
     
  3. Revis Now Redux

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    Rex's "Ground N Pound" Guide:

    1.Draft Kenjon Barner and Michael Dyer and create a menacing 1-2 punch.

    2.Draft Logan Thomas as our QB of the future and draft Denard Robinson for wild card packages.

    3.Draft RT Alex Hurst from LSU to open up the run game.

    4. Revamp receiving core except for Hill and draft big blocking possession receivers just like Stephen Hill- Cordarrelle Patterson From Tennessee is an under the radar star that we can get in rounds 4-5. Da'Rick Rodgers from Tennessee Tech is also an under the radar beast of a receiver.

    Bonus: Get Ladarius Green from the Charger before he replaces Gates and becomes a star. This kid is a freak of nature that i think we can get for cheap. I think we can build off of a deadly 2 tight end set with him and Keller.
     
  4. tank75

    tank75 Well-Known Member

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    its more tannys fault than anything. his 'cap guru' shit has put this team in a position to have to keep players that should have been out the door a while ago, inhibiting us from getting talent in the right places.
     
  5. PinPointPenning10

    PinPointPenning10 Well-Known Member

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    Sure I am. The problem is at quarterback. Good QBs make good WR cores. Just look at Larry Fitzgerald with good QB play and without it. You don't need great WRs to win in the NFL. Holmes and Keller would be Pro Bowlers if they had an elite QB throwing to them.
     
  6. PinPointPenning10

    PinPointPenning10 Well-Known Member

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    They're all in their second year, it's way too early to tell whether they'll be stars. Especially for the current rookies. The other years, were people expecting the Jets to draft stars when they were picking 29th every round of the draft?
     
  7. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Tannenbaum has been a disaster w/o Mangini
     
  8. VanderbiltJets

    VanderbiltJets Active Member

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    Tanny can't evaluate talent. I blame him before I blame Rex.
     
  9. Matt4776

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    I go to Michigan and have season tickets, and let me tell you, Denard can literally not throw the ball. He throws off his back foot, overthrows wide open men deep, throws it at his receivers' feet on screen passes, and misses wide open receivers across the middle. If you want him strictly as a ST/trick play guy as a UDFA, fine, but it would be an absolute waste to waste a draft pick to make him a Tebow-like trick play guy.
     
  10. Revis Now Redux

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    Yeah he is a horrible QB but he has game breaking speed. He would instantly be the best wildcat QB in the league simply because of his speed. By time the draft arrives he should be an improved passer enough for him to be a wildcat only QB.
     
  11. The 1985er

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    That's true but if I'm being honest I don't think either Powell, Wilson, Kerley or Wilkerson will ever be more than average players at best.

    But I hope I'm wrong
     
  12. mr nyjet

    mr nyjet Well-Known Member

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    i go back to what i said during the summer. start mcelroy and get rid of tanneybum.

    btw: the rams are 2-2 under shotty. is he a genius? or, do the rams have a better staff picking the draft choices, in addition to the offensive coordinator?

    the jets should clean house at the gm and scouting dept. sparano and sanchez should go also. with the trade deadline at week 8, the jets should be sellers. however , with the albatross contracts tannenbum gave to sanchez and holmes and scott, good luck getting even a 7th. :shit:
     
  13. ScottFrost

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    "Potential", "haven't been horrible recently at all"?...Let me introduce you to Vernon Gholston (The 6th pick overall should do something, 2008 is not that long ago), Vlad DuCasse, Kyle Wilson, joe McKnight, John Conner (Rex saw him light someone up once in college and decided he was his guy. Didn't notice his hands of stone). Wilkerson was a #1, Ellis a #2, they should be contributing by now...
     
  14. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    Have you watched Logan Thomas play?
     
  15. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    I recall us getting shut out by the Packers, beat down by the Pats 45-3 and going to the AFC championship game that year, people were saying alot of the same things then
     
  16. Revis Now Redux

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    He fits the style of football Rex wants to play, rex wants a big QB that can run and make short passes. He sucks but can be key to aving rex' philosophy succeed because we all know rex is going to be here for a long time. Terrelle Pryor, Tebow, Newton, Logan, Robinson are the type of QB's that can succeed in a system that disregards a good passing attack and would rather pound the ball with options/ Screens/ Draws/ stretch plays etc. Our success passing the ball this season has been on quick passes and mini screens. We can go the West Coast passing route combined with running and get a guy like Andy Murray but Rex's philosophy really cages in who we add to our team, we need so many "specialty" players that we cant just draft quality talent but instead we need to get a guy that fits this certain playstyle. We dont draft on talent but on the way rex feels that player will be good at a problem we have.

    Instead of drafting a solid overall DE, he will draft a pure pass rusher for our 3-4 system because we cant get pressure so our front lines run defense will be exposed. Our teams drafts are built squarely to be just good enough and not to be the best at all phases of the game.
     
  17. Don

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    It's not on Ryan...Ryan has no say in personnel decisions..he was given one pick a couple years ago and took Conner..Tannenbaum makes all the picks..period.
     
  18. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Didn't Rex say that this was perhaps The Best Jets team he's had since since he's been here? Not sure what to make of that statement now. I was hoping the "Best Defensive mind in football today" showed up but I guess he got caught in traffic and couldn't make the game.

    Oh well, there's always next week.
     
  19. PennyRoyal10

    PennyRoyal10 Well-Known Member

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    It's too bad the Jets thought the season consisted of 1 half against the Bills.
    They gave max effort and their offensive game plan proved to be very sound for that one half..
     
  20. kevmvp

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    You look at teams like the Packers and Saints who are playing now and you see talent all over the field on offense and defense. The Saints have at RB alone Ingram, Thomas, and Sproles. I'd take any one of those 3 on this Jets team. The Packers at receiver have Jennings, Nelson, Jones, they have Finley at tight end. Hell the Giants lose Nicks for a couple weeks and Barden steps right in and has a huge game against Carolina.

    I know great QB's make receivers look better then they are but I dont see that type of depth on the Jets.
     

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