TO: "I'm playin' out of my mind right now."

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  1. olyeller

    olyeller New Member

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    As a Cowboys fan in Dallas, we don't hear much about the Jets. How do you see this game progressing?. Most Dallas fans think the offense is geared to TO on every play. The thinking is that on any given series, he will get at least one favorable matchup and will thus get open. If not, checkdown to Witten or a back if the rush is strong. On defense, due to injuries to the corners that they are playing through, they will play very soft. An accurate QB with a one - two step drop can move the ball down field. Is your QB accurate and patient enough to do this?

    Good luck the rest of the year! (except this Thursday)
     
  2. GreenHornet

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    In large part, it comes down to how much we pressure Romo. If we put the pressure on him like we did against Pitt's Big Ben, then we have a good chance of making it a very competitve game. If ROmo has all day to pass then TO will get his catches and that will spell trouble. I would like to think after our victory last weekend against a very good team, our D will come to play hard for 60 minutes.

    As far as our QB goes: Clemens will still be adjusting to being first string, but I think you will be impressed with his overall command of the game. He does have a good arm and he can beat you with it. I think it is still critical for us to establish a sound running game so we can mix up the pass.

    I think it will be a great game. Good luck.
     
  3. xxedge72x

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    Unfortunately for us, with Coles out Clemens will be able to beat the Cowboys defense with his arm, but I'm not so sure our receivers will be able to beat the cowboys defense with their speed / ball catching ability.
     
  4. Duk Dodgers

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    TO is really in the zone, no doubt about it. It would be foolish to assume we can shut him out completely, but we can neutralize him somewhat by not trying to get too cute with our zone coverages and by having rhodes be the safety who plays over the top of him most of the time. We all know what will happen if Elam ends up against TO...he'll probably blow up our cornerback again and TO can just prance his way into the endzone.
     
  5. wayne

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    I heard an interesting thought on Mike & Mike on ESPN (like them or not). Someone was saying that with T.O. & Moss defences should be use a safety @ the line to jamb them then let the corner pick them up. While I dont know how well that would work it is an intersting gameplan
     
  6. Duk Dodgers

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    Didn't we just spend a high 1st rounder on a physical wr who can play at the line? The main problem with the safety at the line approach is that jamming a wr does hurt timing routes or short yardage routes but regularly you want the safety to actually be a safety net for our defense. I say throw the young kid into the fire and prey we don't have any lapses in coverage that we saw in the Redskins game....I can't believe how bad that secondary play was.
     
  7. xxedge72x

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    Makes it too easy on tight ends and anyone else who wants to run fly routes. At least in the case of the Pats, Brady excels at hitting those targets.
     
  8. TampaBayJetsFan85

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    T.O is going to be T.O almost each and every week... I don't think any CB in the NFL can keep this man Shut down for a full 4 Quarters the way that he's playing as of right now... Not even Champ Bailey. And that's the reason why I feel that players such as Ellis, Robertson, Harris (who has simply been amazing since becoming the starter), and even K.Rhodes needs to put alot of pressure on Romo, make him scramble for his life but at the same time keep him in the pocket as best we can... Because he seems to be a better QB out of the pocket. We need to pressure Romo and force him make bad throws. We can't give this kid the time he needs to hit his WR's all game, because before we know it... T.Owens will have another huge game with Romo.

    With all of that said... The best thing that can happen to this Jets team is letting Revis man up with Owens... Even if he gets beat, we need to see where this kid is as of right now as a rookie. We need to test his heart, see where his head is at when guarding a playmaker and see what type of CB we drafted. To be the best... You have to beat the best. Even if T.Owens catches 15 balls for 200 yards with 3 TD's... That can only make Revis a stronger player for the simple fact every great player has the ability to learn from thier mistakes and correct them for the long run.

    Now say Revis shuts down Owens, plays a great game and helps this Jets team win... That can only give this young CB the confidence and the swagger that every great shut down corner needs. This may just be the breakout game for Revis... We have seen it week in and week out with David Harris... Revis, it's your turn now... You are now on the clock.
     
  9. Jets81

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    Revis has played well despite so many people here saying his first season would be worthless because of his holdout. That said, if Mangini puts him into single coverage and he gets torched early on he should get help. The game isn't about Revis it's about winning, not too mention TO putting up those kind of numbers on him could shatter his confidence. I'd hate to see Revis go into a shell and play tentatively so as not to give up homeruns balls because he was embarrassed on national TV.
     
  10. TampaBayJetsFan85

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    Believe me... I have all the confidence in the world in Revis, he's the best rookie CB as far as overall skill goes that I've seen in a long time. I was just saying, to be the best... You gotta go out and beat the best. If Owens were to have a great game against Revis, that could do 1 of 2 things.

    #1... It could ruin the confidence of Revis (If that happens... I really dont want him as our starting CB in the first place. Great players dont go into a corner and hide when they have a bad game... They come back the next week with a chip on thier shoulder ready to correct the mistakes they made the week before and focus on improving in all aspects of the game)

    #2... It could make him a better player for the simple fact he now has a chance to correct his mistakes after guarding one of the best WR's in the game.

    Thats all I'm saying.
     
  11. Jets81

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    I understood the first time, I just don't agree. Owens and Revis are a physical mismatch. He's arguably the best WR in the NFL and you want or expect a rookie CB to shut him down in single coverage? If he can do it, great...no harm in testing the waters, but if it proves to be a mismatch in favor of Dallas (which is likely), make the proper adjustments. Maybe you're fine with watching TO light the Jets up on Thanksgiving but I'm not, and hopefully neither is Mangini.
     
  12. TampaBayJetsFan85

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    Yea... I would love to see T.Owens "Light up this Jets defense on Thanksgiving"... Afterall, I'm a cowboys fan right?

    Get real man
     
  13. Jets81

    Jets81 Well-Known Member

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    If you're gonna quote manually at least get it right.

    Seems like you'd be fine with it judging by these quotes.
     
  14. TampaBayJetsFan85

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    Nice job with your little "Quotes" Trying to make yourself look "Right"

    This is what I said...

    With all of that said... The best thing that can happen to this Jets team is letting Revis man up with Owens... Even if he gets beat, we need to see where this kid is as of right now as a rookie. We need to test his heart, see where his head is at when guarding a playmaker and see what type of CB we drafted. To be the best... You have to beat the best. Even if T.Owens catches 15 balls for 200 yards with 3 TD's... That can only make Revis a stronger player for the simple fact every great player has the ability to learn from thier mistakes and correct them for the long run.
     
  15. Jets81

    Jets81 Well-Known Member

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    Oh man...I know what you said. I think it's a shitty idea to hang a rookie out to dry. If TO puts up those kind of numbers on Revis due to Mangini leaving him in single coverage then Mangini needs to reevaluate his job options at the end of the season. If Revis can handle him then great, but the kind of numbers you posted are ridiculous...he would draw double coverage halfway through that at the latest.
     
  16. abyzmul

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    Mangini had Revis on man coverage against Moss a number of times in his first ever NFL start, and Brady was throwing away from him. I want to see what this kid can do against Owens.
     
  17. Jets81

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    Yea I think everyone wants to see what will happen, and pretty much every football fan in the country will.
     
  18. WhiteShaft04

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    jam TO? did you see what happened to Sam Madison when he tried? wow
     
  19. TampaBayJetsFan85

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    Sam Madison is not the Sam Madison of old, the man has been out of his prime for a good 4-5 years now. Am I saying Revis can jam Owens one on one? No. But Revis can Jam Owens at the LOS with help above from the Safetys.

    But T.Owens should not be this Jets Defense main concern, I'm worried about that 1-2 punch in the backfield for Dallas with M.Barber and J.Jones. This Jets Defense needs to focus on the run game of Dallas but at the same time we also need to focus on keeping Tony Romo in the pocket because it's a fact that the man kills opposing defenses and makes huge plays when scrambling out of the pocket.
     

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