We shouldn't be looking at giving up on DRob - We need to be looking to find a Fatty DT next to him to bring out his best. You put the right guy next to DRob and I think he instantly becomes our most improved player - second on the D only to Vilma,
I don't know what was funnier; the fact that this guy thinks it's possible, or the fact that people are saying D-Rob is too talented.
I think the former is actually funnier. Though the latter is still pretty funny. Let's trade Ty Law to Saints for the #2 pick.
D-ROB is a bust All I know is this, the Jets could of chosen (2/3) Ty Warren, Larry Johnson and Troy Polamalu with the 2 picks that we traded to Chicago to get the #4 pick. Maybe we would of been holding up the Lombardi trophy this year instead of the Steelers. So, as much as I am concerend, these sort of mistakes and demonstrations of bad judgement by the front office can not be excused. Everybody always says, well how could they of known, well obviously other teams are not as stupid since the Patriots would of never made this mistake. Anyway, lets hope Mangini can help correct all our past problems and permit us to move forward.
Which would mean in the last 2 years we Lost -Ferg (Our best DT) -Abe (Our Best DE) -D-Rob (our Biggest POS) lol j/k D-Rob has a huge upside still and I'm looking for him to breakout soon. But to lose those 3 guys is just way too much!
This has been pointed out by a few other posters and myself a few times. LJ would have stepped right in, we would also have that Safety we have coveted for a few years ever since Victor Green got dicked. Believe me, You will not find many on this board who liked the moves of our FO the past few years.
Great idea. That way instead of filling positions of need in the draft, we just create another big one. Who would you sign or draft to replace him? Then who would you sign or draft to be NT?
My opinion only, but I don't think DRob is our NT of the future. In a 3-4 the NT needs to occupy blockers and let the LBs make the tackles. I don't think he has shown that he can do that. I think if they had him penciled in for NT, they would have restructured him by now. I think they're looking to move him and I think they should.
Never said he was the NT of the future. The Jets need a NT now. If D-Rob is traded, then we need a NT and DT. How is this a positive?
Is D-Rob even healthy? Who the hell would trade their number 1 for a guy with questionable health-status, and who has so far been an absilute BUST? I have faith in him turning it around with the Jets too. But if you were another team's GM...would you?
I would give Robertson away for a 2nd rounder. So Robertson plus the #4 to move up to #1 or #2 is worth it in my mind. He gets a lot of money with average results at best. Plus he would not fit a 3-4 at all. So at the most he would only be on the field for half the defensive plays. You don't pay $6 million a year to a guy that is on the field for less than a quarter of the game.
There is no need to move up....get rid of Abe for a 1st or a 2nd & 3rd and draft either Leinart or cutler at 4...I think Tenn is going to take Young because of Mcnair being his mentor since he was in HS. No reason to get rid of D Rob plus I think Mangini will get alot more out of him then Herm could imagine....What really sucks is that if it wasn't for Herm and Bradway Abe wouldn't be so pissed off at the Jets for not signing him to a long term deal a year ago.
But with all the holes on the Jets now, you want to create another by trading away DRob? Isn't that going backwards? So you have to look for a NT and DT, on top of QB, RB, RT, G, C, LT, CB, TE, WRx2, S. Now lets throw a DT in there too? If you want to do it next year. Cut your loses and focus on DT during next year's draft, I can see that. But to do it this year is just dumb, IMO.
I don't understand why you think we have this need at DT. We're playing 3-4 and we already have Kimo, Ellis and Thomas, and we haven't even drafted yet. I agree with JETSFAN that DRob is way overpaid for his performance.
You'll never get the Saints to agree to take on D-Rob and his bloated contract. The Saints signed Sullivan 2 picks after D-Rob and they're the exact same type of player: lazy 3-techs. Besides, he wouldn't be enough compensation anyway. He was worth a 1st when coming out of college but he's nowhere near worth that now. The chart says the move up from #4 to #2 is worth a 2nd and 3rd. Even if the Jets aren't willing to pay that price, someone will, and virtually every non-QB in the top 8 or so is a need or a position for improvement for the Saints.
You all are failing to realize that no one would give up a 2nd rounder for this guy! He really hasn't proven anything on the field in his career except he can be good if he's in the middle of 2 Pro Bowlers and an above average NT. He also showed with no NT and Ellis hurt this season that he cannot shed double teams and needs to be isolated- something you don't want in a DT. Any DT worth trading a 2nd rounder for better be able to play well during double teams and atleast hold his position. Next, his contract his huge and has a big cap hit especially for a mediocre player. He also has a very injury prone knee and would be a major risk for a 2nd rounder, which can be used on a guy like Gabe Watson, Claude Wroten, or Rod Wright. Those 3 are all younger and more healthy and much better options then D-Rob.
