True crime thread

Discussion in 'BS Forum' started by typeOnegative13NY, Nov 23, 2022.

  1. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle 1992 Rookie of the Year

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    Your definitions of nation building and invasions are fun at times but not accurate.

    Nation building: Trump said today himself we will be running Venezuela for years. We will be picking their government, choosing their head of state and running their biggest export business. That's nation building. And yes there might be WalMarts involved so then it could reach your standard

    Invasion: Even if it was a simple attack and removal of their president, that would be an invasion. Unfortunately though I do not see a future where we get in, blow some shit up, get out, and all is well in the swamp
     
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  2. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle 1992 Rookie of the Year

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    Louisiana was purchased. I dont think Greenland is for sale
     
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  3. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    You’re equating nation building to the long term military occupations that we botched in Iraq and Afghanistan. If you want to get caught up in the semantics of definitions, that’s fine.

    My point is that this is nothing close to either of those at this present moment. Can it be? Sure. America’s corporate structure and military industrial complex loves those opportunities.

    You’re just too ready to clench your fist at whatever Trump does to even see the nuances of a situation. You don’t have to agree with it and I certainly don’t at this moment, but this is a geopolitical and yes, imperialistic move to combat energy prices at home and control our own hemisphere.
     
  4. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle 1992 Rookie of the Year

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    At least you acknowledge its an imperialistic move and not trying to sell me on this narco-terrorist bullshit like trump, vance & hegseth
     
  5. IDFjet

    IDFjet Well-Known Member

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    Can you elaborate on what you mean? I'm not sure how France owned the area to begin with--I believe Denmark acts like they own Greenland-- why do you recognize their ownership or do you recognize someone elses ownership
     
  6. Ptflea2

    Ptflea2 Well-Known Member

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    Who knew Venezuela internationally and freaking Minnesota nationally would be ground zero.

    Barf.
     
  7. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle 1992 Rookie of the Year

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    nah you are a smart guy you can read a history book
     
  8. Ralebird

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    There aren't many people in Greenland - so even if they all wanted to visit here that wouldn't be a major increase in tourism. If you are talking about Americans visiting Greenland, anyone who wants to can book a flight this morning.

    The people of Greenland are quite content being part of Denmark and living as they do - we don't hear them crying out for Americans to go there to build huge cities - they are quite capable of doing that themselves - if that's what they want. International trade is moved on giant container ships and cargo aircraft, not by clipper ships; making stops in the North Atlantic for mast replacement and provisions is no longer required in trans0ceanic trade.

    Only six percent of the people of Greenland want it to become part of the USA. 92% would rather be citizens of Denmark than the United States. Does that matter at all?
     
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  9. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    How about we control our own country and let our global neighbors control theirs? How about we "control" energy prices in our own country by encouraging safe, healthy free markets for all energy sources, rather than assuming we have a right to the energy supply of other nations?
     
  10. Ralebird

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    Probably easier to get it out from under a thousand feet of ice than a thousand feet of rock. Maybe even by using their geothermal energy.
     
  11. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    Couch fucker says that the ice agent in Minnesota will get total immunity. Not even an investigation yet. Tells you all you need to know about what we’re dealing with .
     
  12. The Waterboy

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    Fed can't give total immunity for a state charge of murder can they?
     
  13. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    You think he should be charged? Someone resisted arrest and tried to ram an officer in the process. That’s two felonies including one that risked bodily harm to an officer.

    You are defending that person? Or the Iraqi war veteran doing his job? Pretty crazy.
     
  14. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    We should just rename this the anti-Trump True Crime thread so it gets a proper name. I haven’t seen a single post on the multi-billion dollar Somali-Minnesota daycare fraud. I wonder why?!:eek:
     
  15. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    No, not total immunity in the traditional sense but he’s pretty well protected under the Supremacy Clause.

    Supremacy Clause Immunity: Federal officers can be shielded from state charges if their actions were performed as part of their official duties and were "necessary and proper" in fulfilling those federal responsibilities. This immunity is determined on a case-by-case basis.
     
  16. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Yeah, explain to us why we're wrong while our country transforms day by day into a fascist dictatorship.

    Dickweed.
     
  17. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Explain to you why you’re wrong about what? You can be upset about the government and should still be able to analyze events in a vacuum.

    Venezuela involved bad
    Handling of Epstein files bad
    Somali fraud bad too, no?
     
  18. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    For sure. We tried the honest approach and it hasn’t been very good to the American consumer.

    Now we’re trying to take a shortcut to circumvent the long term honest approach.

    But it’s ignorant to say we should “control” energy prices in our own nation. It’s a global market and the country with the largest reserves in the country had a leader that refused to let anyone but their allies into that market. If you puncture those oil reserves (where there are no environmental restrictions like we have here in the US), the prices will drive down globally.

    Again, I don’t agree with the involvement at the present moment. I want nothing to do with overseas conflicts for our country. But to play devils advocate, if Venezuela stabilizes their political leadership without long term US troop involvement and becomes an ally of the US and an uprising nation (like they were in the early 2000’s), this all worked.

    If we end up with troops on the ground, massive US tax dollar investment and a completely destabilized country in our hemisphere for 20 years, it failed. We rolled the dice. I tend to be more conservative with things like that.

    But at least there’s a reason beyond the commentary I’ve seen here and other places as if there’s not thought behind it.
     
  19. Ralebird

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    The best way we can "control" our own destiny is by the broad approach of accepting all types of safe and healthy energy production and allowing the market to decide where the investment is best directed. That means wood, coal, oil, hydroelectric, natural gas, nuclear, solar, wind, geothermal and whatever I missed and whatever comes up next is all on the table. The more we are able to produce on our own shores (and the near offshore) the easier the task will be. We don't need to favor any over the others just to keep the status quo for any current or would be oligarchs aligned with those in power.

    As far as the global aspect of petroleum production and pricing we are currently capable of not needing to compete in those markets at all because we can produce enough in North America to provide for our domestic needs. There is a bit of craziness in shipping so much of our domestic production overseas for profit while betting on that global market to treat us well in return. The best way to address that is not by carelessly exerting international strife but through old fashioned diplomacy. You will never make yourself welcome in someone else's house by knocking down their door.
     
  20. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    Bullshit . Read up. She turned onto the wrong street, wasn’t even there to “observe ice”. They were shouting conflicting orders at her to move her car, they tried to open her door. She then tried to leave, and an unqualified pussy shot her in the face. My whole family are law enforcement, including one of my kids. These ice agents are nothing but gestapo trash. Otherwise worthless. Bullies , acting as an extension of trumps tiny pecker. I anxiously await the day the tide turns and the arrests start .


    Edit. I apologize, and I don’t mean to come at you personally. We have agreed mostly on things in the past. And my feelings are still the same on a lot of things from then. But this administration , is a mockery of it. They are taking peoples desire to have the immigration system fixed, and using it to unleash a trigger happy force that will murder us citizens. Their whole guide tells them to question people who look a certain nationality. It’s as bad as putting the national guard in tourist spots , no where near crime areas as show of force to those who visit the capital .not to curb crime. This guy is a cunt .


    It should concern you that it was said he will get absolute immunity, and that everyone from adobeface Noam to couch fucker have defended him without use of the justice system. Infact, patels fbi is blocking an investigation .
     
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