You pretty much helped my point further by highlighting how each of the last 5 teams won the superbowl. Heath Miller was the best TE out of all those teams and he didn't put up HUGE numbers, not even top 10 numbers. If his biggest contribution was as a run blocker, ok fine, Vernon Davis isn't a great run blocker. I'm not saying a great playmaking TE would be a bad thing, but I don't think they're necessary to win. Look at the top 10 from last season, only 2 made the playoffs. As for those great teams of the 80's/90's you pointed out, I think they probably would have done just fine with servicable replacements for Novacheck, Jones, Chmura - Shannon Sharpe may be the only one I agree with you on, but that's a whole other debate. I would love to have Vernon Davis, but not at #4 and not when we have so many other needs.
I agree that we have many needs, but one of our biggest needs is an offensive playmaker. Right now, we don't have a single player on the offensive side of the ball that scares the defense and makes them gameplan around him. Davis would instantly add this type of dimension to our offense and open up opportunities for the other players. Our other needs can be addressed later in the draft, but a potential offensive superstar cannot.
I agree with you on that, we need playmakers more than anything, especially on offense and Davis certainetly is one.
What an unmitigated disaster making this pick would be. Just reading Jabba's rantings about it makes me angry. If I hear "Tight End" before the Jets first pick this weekend any and all optimism about this new regime having a clue will be obliterated in that second.
If Mario is gone then I would pick Davis Hawk is another one, but if you go Hawk, then don't expect much from the offense and Management will be thinking the same. Nothing wrong with that but if a playmaker is available and he is a definite need then he deserves consideration. Hawk would make our defense even better, but they will be on the field for more than 60% of the game. The needs will be taken care of later in the draft. Picks that high are game changers
And exactly what have the Giants, Chiefs, and Falcons accomplished? The only thing important about a tight end is that he is a good blocker in the running game. Almost all the elite teams do not have a good offensive tight end. Look at the colts, patriots, broncos, seahawks, panthers, redskins,steelers (only a rookie).
I do not have season tickets, haha. But, take my word for it, Vernon Davis is really not that good. I know firsthand because I am currently attending the University of Maryland.
You may not need a TE to win a superbowl, but you need a playmaker to get there. A superstar, somewhere on your team, that opposing teams need to gameplan around. Without one, teams have the option to do whatever they want against you. We don't have a true playmaker, though arguably Coles is close.
The point was not what those teams have accomplished, but how important the TE position has been to them. If you honestly think that the only important thing about a TE is that he is a good blocker in the running game, then you are clueless about offensive systems in the NFL. With your logic, what would even be the point of having a TE on the roster? You might as well just put a third OT out there.
You have to be more openminded than that...This guy is NOT just a TE. This guy did a little bit of everything at Maryland. He played WR, the Slot, TE, Hback, and even returned some kickoffs I heard. We aren't just getting a TE, We would be getting an offensive playmaker... Having said all that, I would prefer Brick or Mario Williams and one of them will be available.
The reason why Gates has been/is so successful for the Chargers is because they got him for FREE. They didn't spend a high draft choice on him, and he's been making peanuts the last 2 years. Davis would need to come in and perform near the top of the league to even begin to justify his salary, let alone the absurdly high draft pick. A team in the Jets position has no business even considering spending their first pick on a TE.
Those 3 teams are playoff contenders What about the Jets? Patriots have very good catching TE's Seahawks have a very good catching TE Panthers only have one good receiver, but they also lost because they only have one good receiver Steelers TE has done better than our TE's combined.... Ask Roethlesberger how much having Miller has helped him. He was the second leading receiver on the team.... They are important
Getting Gates for "free" has nothing to do with his success. He is successful because he is a beast. Like I said before though, I am not a big time supporter of us drafting VD. I just don't think you should be so narrow minded about it.
