Was this game Rex's final act?

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  1. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    No didn't see it live, fell asleep.
     
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    How you been Jack?
     
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    I don't think anyone ever actually enjoyed playing the Wii.
     
  4. Wahoo

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    Come on, you can't really believe this is the thought process. The running game appeared to be working so they stuck with it, and limited Geno's mistake potential. Rex sucks as a coach, but I can't believe he would actively implement a game plan for the specific purpose of screwing the GM - and its not clear how he would be screwing him. This is fantasy.
     
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    But bent over to management in between.
     
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    I can't remember being more sick to the stomach after a game like I was last night. I feel sorry for the players who played hard. They played hard enough to win the game. It isn't that Philbin or the Fins staff did a great job. They just used basic common sense. Something the Jets don't have.
     
  7. FJF

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    Rex "earned" the rest of the year by beating pitt. A lose there going into the bye would have been the time to do it.
    I didn't see the game as an f.u.
    i saw it as another game where the other team made adjustments and we didn't.
     
  8. Br4d

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    The ball just bounced off the Fin defender's helmet. That's how it's not pass interference. The picture is taken from down the field not the viewpoint of the backfield. Once the ball hits the defender anything is legal in terms of contact.
     
  9. Br4d

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    This is the narrative the NY media hung on Rex during the run in 2009. A bunch of people said: "just wait until he fails and then things are going to get really rocky" and then they did what they could to make that a reality when he failed.

    The problem is nobody is scared of Rex anywhere anytime. Parcells had the media terrified most of the time. They never knew when he was going to call a reporter out in front of his peers and take him to the ground verbally while shredding his inferior knowledge of football in the process. Coughlin doesn't do that as much but when you ask a stupid question he'll make you look stupid.

    Rex is just a good guy most of the time and he's an easy target when things go wrong. You can point at his generally easy-going manner as the reason things have collapsed. You have no fear at all that he's about to take your professional facade and tear it down on you. That's true for the media and it's true for the players and coaches as well.
     
  10. pclfan

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    The first guy in line to replace Rex as interim would be Marty and he's worse than Rex. Next up probably Thurmond. I'd take him over both of them but just finish the year out. One thing about Rex not being with the Jets. I think you'll see that the circus leaves with him. Will Rex kick the Idzik can after he leaves. I'm sure he won't but his friends (ie. him) will - definitely.
     
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    See I think the media has been very friendly to Rex. Too friendly. Extra friendly because he gives them the sound bites week in and week out. He's the golden goose for them. Sure a reporter will write a critical article from time to time (go figure) but they don't go too far with him. Plus for every article that is critical with him there are just as many articles pointing the finger elsewhere - - (claims Idzik is sabotaging him, claims he didn't want Tebow and it came from the top, etc.)

    This is his 6th year - his 4th non-winning season and he talks to the media everyday. They asked tougher questions by far to Idzik in his presser. They were very tough on Mangini as well. They throw soft cotton balls at Rex in comparison.

    The media hated Mangini - just for example: can you imagine if he had a tattoo of his failed QB? If he oversaw the Tebow disaster and was afforded the opportunity to keep his job while they looked for a new GM? If he was 2-10 and talking about stats/good practices? If his teams continually shot themselves in the foot?

    They would be HAMMERING him.

    The media has been way too kind to Rex.
     
  12. slimjasi

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    Precisely
     
  13. Dierking

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    That's probably good advice, but I'm not certain I'm ready to go cold turkey. What if I just keep waving my balls in general for awhile longer.
     
  14. Big Blocker

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    Today in the NFL, if you have the running game going, and you have a halfway decent Qb who is not a turnover machine, even if your running game is getting results, you have to mix in the pass. Why? Because it keeps the D honest. I frankly was surprised last night it took Miami so long to make the adjustments they eventually did. But despite their gaudy team pass D stats, they were vulnerable as long as you did not throw at Grimes.

    Here's the thing - it would have been bad enough if the Jets waited to start throwing when the opponent puts an extra man in the box. You have to keep your Qb in the game for that moment. And perhaps you connect on enough passes to make the opponent run a standard set against your rushing attack longer than if you just keep running.

    But the Jets kept on running. In the second quarter, when the run was not as (yes, hugely) successful as in the first. And even when the fish loaded the box in the third.

    That last part is what convinced me it was intentional that they were not going to use Smith until they more or less had to. (But of course others disagree.)

    I am no Smith fan by any means, but imo the trolling argument is based on the fact that by the time Smith really did throw the ball, he had not been able to develop any rhythm. I suppose if the Jets had won the game with that run balance attack, Ryan would have been genuinely pleased. But second best was to lose it in the fourth when Smith was given more pass attempts. Again, no Smith fan here, but what was the likelihood that by the fourth quarter Smith if cut loose would be effective?

    ESPN and others can talk as if there is no question that Ryan was trolling Idzik. It sure looked that way, but it doesn't matter if I am right they were trolling. If he was NOT trolling Idzik, then what he was really saying was that even where, with virtually any other Qb, you would have begun to use the run to set up play action or even other pass plays just to keep the D honest, they still kept running it. If it was not trolling, it was even a more damning assessment by them of Smith. They were saying Smith is not like virtually any other Qb. They were saying he's far worse.
     
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    I'm sure there are any number of people on this board that habitually enjoy playing with their "Wii"... They are also probably Pats fans.
     
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  16. BacktoQueens

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    that's how you saw it?
    the Dolphins only adjustment was obvious. completely load the box as Geno is not a threat in the passing game.

    what adjustments should the Jets have done to counter this? let Geno throw more? i don't think that would have gone well.
    it's near impossible to completely hide your QB AND your secondary. amazingly, they almost pulled that off with a creative run game, and continually mixing up the defensive formations.

    the coaching staff's fate is already sealed with the NYJ. i don't see this L as an instance of being out coached by any means though.
    i also don't see it as any FU to the front office. they were trying to win, and running the ball a ton was their only real shot at doing so.

    on a side note, put Vick back in, or roll with Simms. Geno is shot. The QB situation is as depressing as 2012.
     
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  17. Wahoo

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    Absolutely. And its not just the NY media - everytime you watch an NFL show, "Rex Ryan" has somehow become synonymous with "defensive genius". I really wish they would produce some evidence of his supposed prowess with defenses. As I have said on numerous occasions, his defense was stellar for one half of his first season as HC. After the league figured him out, his team coasted for a while on talent and then became quite mediocore. And in the 2 biggest games he coached, the 2 AFC championship games, the genius and his defense DIDN'T SHOW UP! Yet this myth of Rex Ryan as defensive guru is perpetuated by the media because, as you said, he provides the sound bites, stupid comments, and circus atmosphere the media thrives on. Of course they would love to keep him around.
     
  18. BacktoQueens

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    If he doesn't take a network job, he'll have his choice of DC positions.
    why do you suppose that is?
     
  19. JetsUK

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    obviously not, its already basically been confirmed that nothing will happen until the off season.
     
  20. JetsUK

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    we need one of those coaches that can win a SB with substandard players and a bottom 5 QB like errrm, oh wait that's right, that person doesn't exist - the only teams that actually get anywhere on a consistent basis have top tier talent and a top 10 QB
     
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