I thought it was a good call. The guy is sick fast since he was a decathlete champion or something like that. I'm OK with the call. The punter gets privilege to make the call because of the lack of a microphone between the punter and the coach. It may also have something to do with it being a bit tough for a coach to make that call with .068450928 seconds between the time the ball is snapped and looking at the field, then calling the play fake.
I was there, and I liked the call and so did everyone else, untill it was overturned of course, he saw an opportunity and thought he could make it and he was right. He could have made it, very close, it was a correct gut call but just didnt fall our way. Could have been a very different game if he makes that extra couple of inches.
Exactly. How in the fuck does the guy walk onto the field still believing it's 4th and 9 when it's 4th and 18??? You think someone might have mentioned that to him before sending him out there??? You think if he wasn't watching the 3rd down play that he might have asked someone what had happened so he knew what the hell was going on??? I'm a big fan of Rex but sometimes his coaching oversights are absolutely unbelievable. No, it probably wasn't the play that decided the game, but that type of shit should just never happen.
If this is true, then i retract my post saying i agree with weatherford making a gut call, yea he saw he could get some nice yardage but if he didnt know how far he actually had to go then he didnt really have full aspect of what he needed to do, success would have been lucky in that case.
LOL. I can imagine him starting to run and thinking shit that fucking marker is fucking far. That's when the urgency kicked in. He was booking it. He'll do it again watch..... Watching it again if he gets the line to seal that side he goes for more. [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlkuU8INBbg[/YOUTUBE]
Alright so...I heard Rex on 1050 on the drive home. Rex said Weatherford did not have the ability to make the call on his own. Weatherford is supposed to check with Rex or Westoff before he makes the call.
Maybe I'm wrong then. I thought for certain I remembered Westhoff saying that he has that option last season.
I saw Rex's postgame last night and Im pretty sure he said something about making sure weatherford knew where the first down marker was, something to that effect, maybe he said that he was saying it to himself at the time, but that would indicate that Weatherford did have the ability to make the call. Edit: Im almost positive he said more than once it was Weahterfords call, and I rememebr thinking that he kind of threw him under the bus.
Willie, you are 100% correct about above. However, the privilege was stripped last season because of a call Weatherford made, this is according to Rex on 1050 today. I don't remember which play it was though, Rex didn't say specifically. That said, having cost the team the ball AND a challenge, Weatherford should be benched for 1 game. The Jets are playing in a dome this week, any kicker will do.
^ Edit: yeah, that's what I thought too. I think he had that ability last season until he screwed it up. He didn't do much faking after that. That's probably when Rex and Westy tried to put the clamps on him, but in the fashion of NFL kickers, he let the words float through his empty head.
Yesterday it sounded like Weatherford still had the ability to make the call, for obvious reasons today is a different tune. http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/confused_weatherford_comes_up_short_hIQzh8gYrgZMHSvy8BfpIP
If Weatherford would have gotten the 1st down, then he would have been correct. Since he got it wrong and we turned over ball, its a bad decision. The thing is, that his "mistake" didnt cost us the game. If this was in OT, or 4th Qrt then it should be worse, but it didnt affect the end of the game cause at the end of it, we didnt score any points. My question is this tho. Now that Weatherford has run for 17 yrds on a 4th and 18 inside our territory early in the game, are teams in the future going to worry about it? Its going to be in the back of there mind every time we play them which will benefit us? We lost by 9 and scored 0 pts, our defense is good enough to stop a lot of teams, in a close game, special teams win them and little "trick" plays can make or break the game. So I think its good to see that he can run these plays and Id rather have him learn from his mistakes in a game like this than in a game we NEED to win in an elimination scenario...
In all my years of watching footballl, w/o a doubt the worst descision I've ever seen, moron took the snap at his own 5 yard line...in a scoreless game...
