What do you think about Bob Suttons decision to play the prevent defense?

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  1. NDmick

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    Donnie Henderson's Haberdashery: We put hats on people!

    Seriously, we're going to need to put more pressure on the QB later in games, especially when we face off against some of the better QBs on the schedule who can make more throws than Pennington can. We weren't getting to the QB at all on that last drive and we needed to. That being said, I'm happy with the win and hopefully what we saw was just growing pains.

    Personaly, I think Barton's ruffing the passer penalty and Woody's false start were the bigger reasons that this game came as close as it did. It's stupid mistakes like that which are going to kill us more than the prevent-D.
     
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    I do. But I doubt he would be able to run Mangini's 3-4.
     
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  5. Zach

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    Vintage Bob Sutton.
     
  6. TampaBayJetsFan85

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    Well...If this was vintage Sutton...How the heck did the Jets hold Williams and Brown under 50 yards rushing for the game?!?
     
  7. Zach

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    That's vintage Pennington, not vintage Sutton.
     
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    The purpose was to run out the clock. It didn't work. It rarely works.
     
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    We won. The Prevent worked, can?t really blame him. I hope he doesn?t do it again in a simular situation, thou.
     
  10. RLUCAS4137

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    I think it just confuses everyone because as we all know when Chad is pressured in the pocket he can't make the throws. Sure he might make the right read, but if that rb isn't open on a check down he's done.

    And we didn't see that until the last play of the game and what happened?
     
  11. Kentucky Jet

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    Sutton has a HEAD COACH. Where does he fit in with the decision? We can blame a coordinator but the HC must approve the whole deal! He is the final say on everything! Shades of Hackett! Duh Herm remains untouched but made the final decisions!

    However, being fair, our lack of a kicker entered into the equation too. We won and yet JETS fans are looking for something to gripe about!
     
  12. AussieJet

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    A win is a win!
     
  13. Kris 15

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    It was unnecessary. Chad was not going to beat us deep and the prevent plays directly to his strengths. It's like they play the exact same defense in that situation regardless of the opponent.
     
  14. matt robinson 17

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    Up until the last 2 drives all they had was that one td drive, we shut them down the whole game, they should have stayed in the base defense the rest of the game...dumb move...when they blitzed Chad thru up helium balloons
     
  15. Tony

    Tony Bipedal, Reformed

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    It wasn't a "prevent" defense. This is one of the most overused terms in the NFL.

    They just didn't keep up the pressure, choosing to play somewhat soft instead. This coaching staff needs to lean to put the foot on the neck of the opponent. It showed when they ran the ball on 3rd and 7, and when they just played soft zone the entire 4th quarter.
     
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    I am more concerned that the coaching staff had no contingency plan in place if our place kicker gets hurt. That one simple item that was overlooked nearly costed us the game yesterday. I mean, there has to be somebody on the team capable of kicking an extra point.
     
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    I agree, nobody else could kick an XP?
     
  18. AussieJet

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    Sign me up... I used to kick XP in a rugby team... and thats from angles!! Least you guys do it from straight in front!

    A mate asked me yesterday, why even bother with an XP nowadays? All pro teams should be kicking them 100% of the time.
     
  19. AlioTheFool

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    Sutton needs to go. Yesterday wasn't the first example of why, just the latest. How he doesn't get more blame is beyond me.

    I think Tony is right. It wasn't a "Prevent D", but it was soft. You don't let Chad Pennington run a two-minute drill downfield when the TD and PAT will lose the game.

    A win is a win, but that same level of playcalling loses against a decent team, which Miami is not.
     
  20. Coach K

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    nah dude, the dolphins tried to run. got shitted on and so they decided to air it out cuz running on us was obviously not happening.

    i cant say i agreed with going prevent that late. makes some sense due to the fact pennington cant throw deep, therefore you always keep the play in front of you. and it worked. so i cant bitch too much.

    but i think its funny how when our defense is poor Sutton takes the blame yet when we see promise its always Mangini and Tanny are making this 3-4 really work.

    this is manginis' defense. dont get it twisted. and even if Sutton calls bad schemes than its still manginis fault for letting him do something that might later be considered wrong. especially since ehs the HC. plain and simple.

    i dont know why so many jet fans are surprised of the otucome. that was classic chad pennington performance if i ever saw it. 20 of 26 passes completed to TE's and RB's. and a promising 2 minute drive that comes down to a red zone INT.

    same shit he did for us just in a different color scheme now.
     

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