What were you guys saying after the Miami game? Nevermind the D not being able to hold, and the coach hold his TOs...what were you guys saying about him after the Miami game?
I appreciate the OP. Some people just don't want to have to flex their cerebral cortices past hungry and beer I agree that sitting Sancho at this point could be a thorn in his conficence, but get real guys, this is professional football. He's a big boy that is playing badly. I would say that pulling him to calm down and watch a vet play could actually have a positive effect on the kid. If Kellen does well, it may even take some pressure off Sancho and allow him to develop at a slightly more normal rate...for NY anyway.
This is a 2 way street. when Sanchez was sulking on the bench last week I saw no teammates or CS over there talking to him. I also didn't see him seeking anyone out to talk to. he just sat there staring at the ground, eating his fingernails. I would blame this mostly on the CS, but he needs to step up and ask questions as well. Rex Ryan, will not be the one to help him. This is where Schotty needs to show his stuff, and help this guy out. Everyone knows Schotty wants to be a HC someday. You better believe that what he does in Sanchez's developement will have something to do with his ability to be a HC.
Thats true and a good point. But what we are over looking all the pressure he is under being the starter. It can be hard to maintain focus or at times even think straight living under this kind of pressure. Benching him a few games and letting him learn from the sidelines could actually be a relief for him. You dont want to pile to much burden on a young player. That can really mess up a young QB. And IMO he still has a lot to learn about recognizing defenses. Not everything is learned in game. Maybe if we eased some of the pressure on him he could actually relax and ease into his role.
Schotty leaves a LOT to be desired. As a 22 year old kid, Sanchez has his head flooded with information, so you can't expect him to seek out the coach. Would it be a good attribute? Hell yeah, and I think to some extent he needs to realize that, but Schotty needs to initiate that. What is he doing while the D is on the field? That's when he's supposed to be working with the troops. Sanchez is the field leader, so Schotty needs to know that he has to fix problems from the top down. The Os problems all begin with Schotty.
Easing pressure on him is definitely key. They need to adjust the book for him. Maybe Schotty got caught up in how quickly he picked up the playbook and forgot that knowing it and running it effectively are 2 different things. I think if they emphesize the short game for this year, they should be fine. And that's what they planned on doing, but they never really did. The only thing I can think of is they got caught up in everything he was doing right, which was going vertical, that they forgot the screens and slants.
He didn't have two bad games. He had two horrifically bad games. The Jets are a now team. Guys like Kris Jenkins, Bart Scott, Braylon Edwards, Alan Faneca, Calvin Pace, Lito Sheppard, and Damien Woody were brought in for this team to win now. The idea that the Jets are a rebuilding team that wasn't supposed to win in 2009 is cuckoo talk. If Sanchez struggles in the first half today and the Jets are losing, pulling him out of the game is smart. NFL teams used to put in backup QBs when the starter was struggling, sort of like relief pitchers in baseball. Problem is, teams don't do this as often these days. Why? Maybe because most starting QBs have huge salaries these days and pulling them from the game might hurt their feelings.
Moo, you're at work, having a bad day. After the boss chose you over some other dude, because you were supposed to be better, but having a bad day nonetheless. So your boss tells you to go sweep the floor while the guy you replaced does your job. Is that going to help you? Letting you take lumps early, tells everyone the story. Are you the guy they thought you were? As an NFL QB, adversity is always a day away. So if he can't handle it now, he'll never handle it. Sitting him down, sends the message that 4 of the 6 games you played as an asset weren't good enough to keep you out there and the 2 bad games you had are what have defined you so far. Terrible message to send out there.
2 bad games. Is there a scale of bad? Bad is bad. 2 horrendous games is still less than 4 good games. Half, in fact. The Jets are a win now team? That's crazy talk. Every year is a win now year, otherwise what's the point of playing? They have a couple of positions they need to upgrade and they need depth at several positions. There's nothing more win now about that, than any other season. They have a QB in his 7th career start. Win now? No more than any other year. You know what defines a "Win now" suituation? A coach on the hot seat. That's it.
In the last 3 games he has had 2 really bad games and 1 mediocre at best game. He has 10 INTs, 12 SCKs and 5 TDs. Do you expect him to improve today? What if he continues to throw INTs? Hopefully the Jets jump ugly all over the raiders and its a non-issue. But I think it will be an issue which is why I raised it.
I am very much in the camp that says, "If you are sucking real, real, real bad, take a seat on the fuckin' bench for at least the next series so that you don't continue to hurt our chances to win this game." Sanchez was playing like a moron vs the Bills. He should have sat for at least one series. We have seen rookie QBs handled all sorts of way and that is one of those ways.
Yes, there is a scale. Sanchez can be less than adequate or bad and the Jets can still win. But he was pathetic two times this year and was easily the goat in both games. It is absolutely NOT crazy talk. You don't trade away multiple draft picks if you are not a win now team. You don't make desperate in-season trades for headcase wide receivers if you are a rebuilding team (aka not a win now team). The Lions, Bucs, Rams, and Raiders are among the teams that are not win now teams. All are clearly rebuilding.
Funny analogy as always JJ, but not very comparable in this case... I understand what you are saying from a confidence standpoint, but this is New York sports. Nobody gets a free pass and the keys to the yellow jeep. Put or shut up. If Sancho can't play well enough to stay in the game, then maybe he can't handle the job. The analogy rings true, however, in that at my office, we use the best man for the job. My 60 year old boss doesn't spend entire days in the field, and I don't give advice to big clients when he can do it better. I sit back and watch him work to help me get better at my job and I understand that that's just the way the world works. If it really bothered me, I would have started a thread about it by now.
See that is exactly the wrong question to ask. Its about helping the team to win - its not about 1 person's feelings. If the other dude is more capable of making the team win the boss must put him in a position to do so - otherwise the boss is not doing his/her job. If your feelings get hurt because you cannot see that its about more than you - then guess what? you aren't a leader or a team player and you are too self focused.
OK then bench the whole defense for having 1 less bad game than your starting QB. Sure, that makes tons of sense. You trade away multiple draft picks for young guys that are going to be here longer than 1 year. There's nothing win now about that.
Building a dynasty is a marathon. It's not about 1 game, 6 games in. Your boss has a deadline, invariably. If you guys want a revolving door of players and coaches then hey, win now is a good approach. Your boss, depending on the field, knows that in some positions you can have a revolving door but ultimately you want a guy that can go the distance. Everyone has their philosophy, that's just mine.
I'm likely done with this conversation after this post because you are distorting my argument and getting all weird here. The only reason why the thread starter, myself, and a few others are talking about Sanchez maybe being benched at some point is because he is a rookie QB and with a win now team it sucks to have one player killing the team's chances to win.
I hate the "win-now" moniker. New York is always a win now team. I am suggesting that benching him for the right reasons may actually help his development. Even Gruden said the kid has no business on an NFL field at this point.
That might be the case for other QBs, but Sanchez has gone on record as saying that he wants to be on the field and correct those mistakes. He likes to work hard and has admitted that he needs to focus on not getting emotionally involved in the game, kid stays in for me , 8 INTs or not. He has the smarts to overcome this.
