(1) I understand that. I do not like the personnel instability at all either. I really think Jets should have solidified the team roster last year - which they didn't. Here's a hope that Braylon is brought back later (he must suck this season then get released from the niners in order for that to happen. Har har har) Once the defense is stretched vertically, the weakness of Shonn Greene will not be as magnified as it is now. (2) I thought this was the logical conclusion to draw from the way offense personnel is set up, and the way Rex wants his offense to play. Jets will never be prolific spread-formation passing team. Rex wants physical team that will beat you up at the line first and foremost - if that's how he wants to use his rushing attack, then passing attack must neutralize or negate the defense's ability to load up the box. On top of that, 90's Cowboys attack system is where Schottenheimer comes from, so I couldn't find better 'good example' for the current team to follow than that one. (3) It took me a little while to find a name that suits the current personnel without changing too much of current offensive system. Seriously, if I am Tannenbaum, I'd give Zampese a call and see if he wants to coach again. If he is willing to take OC job, then I'd ask him to study and get ready during this season for the next - once the season is over, I'd can Schottenheimer and bring Zampese in. All the motions and smoke screen shit will be there, mind you; that's where Zampese differs from other Sid Gillman disciples (and unfortunately that's the stuff Schotty picked up) Just, Zampese at least has a track record of success all over his career. (with Chargers and Cowboys; he even won SB as an OC with the 'Boys.)
Really some impressive posts on this thread. Not what I expected. I still don't understand the MASSIVE grief Shotty gets from Jets Nation. He was given a rookie QB who had only one season starting in college. I think he's been masterful in protecting this kid's limitations, and utilizing the best aspects of the Jet talent base. OL/RB/Defense. The idea was to get Sanchez from training wheels into a position where eventually the training wheels would come off as he matured. Now what happened, and its NOT Shotty's fault is that the OL is now a mess, the RB is just average, and because of the big contracts the Jets accumulated they couldn't keep the all the talent they had. So now Sanchez doesn't have the time he had in his first 2 seasons. He doesn't have the luxury to throw just 20-25 passes and win a game. His best plays come off of play action,. and w/o a running threat, that's a joke. And to compound the issue, the defense is far more porous than in the past So whlie Sanchez might ACTUALLY becoming a better QB, he's doing it at time when the rest of his arsenal is deteriorating. OR it could be that Sanchez is an always will be just an average-good NFL QB. Time will tell, but it ISN'T Shotty's fault. Jet fans should be praising him for getting Sanchez to this point with all those wins. What they NEED to do is for the FO to get rid of some of those cap killing contracts and fill the holes in the Jets depth and and recover from the ordinary drafts the Jets have had in recent years. Bottom Line, if the Jets were smart, they'd stick with Shotty. Don't forget the Brady.Rivers, Manning, Rogers, all have stayed in the same offensive systems throughout their careers. There is a lot to be said for continuity. BTW- IIRC Zampeze was with the Pats with Bledsoe back in the mid-90's B
I agree with patfanken, the OL is making Sanchez look worse than he's played, and that Sanchez is dependent on a running game to be successful. He wont be taking over games by himself. Our offense depends on the OL to get it done (and most do unless you're the Steelers). They need to step it up.
We could be praising him for all these wins but the reality is we have had the No. 1 over all D and the No. 3 overall d in the league the last 2 years. 2 years ago we were No. 1 in rushing attempts, 1 in Yards and 5th in Yper. We were 32nd in passing. Last year we weren't as good running the ball but we were very good and we weren't as bad passing the ball but we were bad. On a team built to play D and run the ball we played D and ran the ball. Doesn't seem to me that Shotty did anything particularly brilliant with Sanchez.
Braylon is hurt and doesn't have to be released, just not re-signed. He will be a FA again. I would like him back if both parties can swallow their pride.
as i was reading this thread just now, someone called in to complain about schotty on NFL blitz. rich gannon and adam schein couldn't even say anything more than the caller did. they basically just agreed that he sucks and was predictable lol nice to see a jets caller actually get through and be able to tell people how schitty schotty is. seems like every caller is about the cowboy, packers or steelers 99% of the time.
I'm not so sure about a West Coast offense with short, quick reads and accurate throws. That doesn't seem to play into Sanchez's strengths. He seems do well with play action, rolls and intermediate throws. While obvious, I think the most important things for Sanchez are a good line (I'd include depth here), TE safety valve and a very good running game. Is Greene the answer? I don't know. While you don't want to have to much of an expectation for a 3rd rounder, I think Rex is expecting more from him. Let's not forget the defensive component. Last year the defense provided Sanchez with a nice cushion and thus far this year hasn't been able to do it. With all this said, it's early and I'm sure the Sanchez and Jets you see later in the year will look different.
I think all he needs to learn to be is a "game-manger"... he is not going to be an excellent Quarterback in the NFL and I have come to accept that, but does that mean that he can't be apart of a good offense... no. With poor play-calling, and a struggling offensive line, struggling run game, then its obvious that a mediocre quarterback who throws for 55%, and has a case of fumblitis, is not going to be great. I just hope he can manage a football game, decrease turnovers, and beat the fuckin pats.
He had a run game last year as well as lots of time to throw. he still threw nearly as many INTs as he did TDs.
So one Pats fan understands this. I am genuinely surprised. And that assessment is right on the mark, since that's the situation Sanchez was forced into in the first two years of his NFL career. Jets never had spread offense. Once you look at the offense he ran at USC, you'd again see that Sanchez is a better vertical QB than horizontal QB. his swing passes and flat passes makes you cringe, even during the college games. His strength lies in long passes off play action fake, and buying time with his athleticism, along with the dead-on accurate mid range passes. -------------------------------------------------------------------- I just finished watching the video clips of Sanchez during his USC days. I had to watch them about 5 times because I couldn't believe my eyes; Sanchez during the USC days does not look anything like Sanchez in his Jets uniform. He is decisive, his balls have a tight spiral and very good velocity and most of all, he is very accurate even in intermediate - long range passes. True, the level of competition is much different; I admit that. However, if Sanchez could hit his receivers accurately in their strides during the college days, it would be logical to assume that he should be able to reproduce the same trait in the NFL. Instead, Sanchez we see these days is tentative and at times confused. This is clearly seen from one fact; in case of the intermediate passes, (not even short ones) Sanchez rarely held the ball more than 4 seconds. Usually at 3 second mark, he would fire off the pass, and move the chain. Now? Sanchez rarely does that. He at times holds the ball too long, resulting in sack and/or fumble. Then I was reminded that Jets receives under Schottenheimer's lead rarely had good runs after the catch. Coles would get killed by killer block from Zach Thomas, if anything.
