What's wrong with starting a rookie QB?

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  1. MiaJets305

    MiaJets305 Active Member

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    Their is nothing wrong with it if you're last name is Luck, the impatience in me wants to start Petty but it would be the worst thing this organization can do to the kid. He has crazy potential and he seems smart and a hard worker that wants to be great so why not bring him along slowly instead throwing him to the wolves and potentially ruining him. Let him hold the clip board and soak up the game from the sidelines just like we did with Chad and I promise he will grown into what weve beem waiting for since foever......franchise qb
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    He hasn't been THAT bad, that first preseason game, he had a rough start - but he recovered. The accuracy is no doubt there, the guy is REALLY good throwing on the run. I do think they should've started Mettenberger first and increased his stock so they could trade him for a higher draft pick.
     
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    Macagagnan should be in Tennessee's ear all season, just in case they decide to move Mettenberger.
     
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    I haven't heard any recent reports, but I never would have been in favor of his starting here immediately if we had drafted him. He needs to put on some weight/strength, and with his propensity for running, really needs to to adapt to the speed of the NFL, learn the offense, etc., adjust to calling plays in the huddle, taking snaps from under center, etc.

    I don't think they have any intentions of trading Mettenberger, at least not in the forseeable future. Every team needs a quality backup. Why would they trade him? Who would play if Mariota got hurt or struggled badly?

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  5. Chadchrebet

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    High football IQ? That's what the media said, and I think the color of is skin played a lot in that. Sad to say and attack me if you want, but it's the world we live in. Bryce has a better arm. Is he faster than Bob Griffin no way. But he's pretty quick for his size. Not to mention Bob Griffin is a rag doll. I think Bryce has a better IQ aswell. Just because he didn't have a play book in college doesnt mean squat. Presumably he had a play book in HS, and before then, albeit it didn't have the depth of a pro-style offense. In actually if you look at an average NFL play book, it contains only 5-7 running plays, ran out of 15 different formations. Passing plays no more than 20, ran out of 15 different formations. It gets complex in the huddle when you call a play for each of the 5 specialists that can touch the ball, and their motion on the play, route, etc.
     
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    We did, and Kyle Shanahan ran the most simplistic offense in the history of football en route to RG3 having an overrated season. A lot of read option, roll outs, bootlegs and screens. If Petty was more of a runner we could design an offense like that around his strengths but he's not a burner.
     
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    I agree w/ what you are saying there but they made the decision to start Mariota WK 1 - they aren't backing out of that now.

    If I were the Titans, I would at least start Mettenberger this year, and evaluate him. If he's mediocre you keep him until his contract is up. If he performs well, you could flip him for high picks kind of like Matt Schaub when he was with the Falcons. Texans gave up 2 2nd round picks. It's much better than having him walk and getting a comp pick.

    They will have to deal with Mettenberger eventually, and I don't think he's content on being just a backup, that guy wants to start. Especially as time goes on.

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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Unfortunately, using skin color instead of evaluating a player's character is straight up ignorant. I don't care about the world we live in bullshit. You create your OWN perception in this world. Bryce has a stronger arm, but RG3 was more accurate IMO, and had a quicker release.

    Bryce, in his own right decided to work on the pro aspects a little earlier and I think that helped his development. RG3 more than likely did not.
     
  9. Chadchrebet

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    Hey man, it's the society we live in. If Bryce and Bob Griffin were both purple instead of black or white, I would take Bryce. I just think the media was starved for a black qb to do well. If you want to call me ignorant you are certaintly entitled to. But, I go by talent alone, from the beginning I never liked Bob Griffin. It's just an opinion. Not ignorance.
     
  10. Chadchrebet

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    We did not. No one brought up the "transition" nonsense
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Keep that society BS for the birds dude, that's an excuse to act ignorant. I really hope that's not your views on life. I didn't think RG3 was a great QB prospect either, but my reasons were far different. I simply, don't like spread QBs.

    To others, RG3 had a lot of good things working for him prior to the draft. To be honest, I wouldn't take either Bryce or RG3, if I had a choice, my QB would be Teddy Bridgewater. He's light years ahead of both guys. I also don't care what the media says - if they want a black QB that's on them, but I don't give a damn.

    Bryce was a 4th round pick for a reason and he had some shitty performances in college notably against WVU.
     
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    That was one game, and he didn't play bad against WVU. IT was also in the snow,and windy as all hell. In Sanchez fanboy metrics, it was a great performance. On Bob Griffin, Tell me why the media loved a guy who was undersized, already had one ACL tear, came from a spread offense that had no playbook. But man is he atheltic....
     
  13. Red Menace

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    There's nothing wrong with starting a rookie QB, if they are mentally and emotionally ready for that responsibility, historically only a handful of QBs have come in and taken the reins of the team within their first year.

    Elway, P.Manning, Marino(6th game of first year), Andrew luck, Russell Wilson, as you can see, these guys were no ordinary rookies, the game was not overwhelming for them, they had to learn certain aspects of the NFL game, but it was a given they were going to be great.

    Unless you have one of these guys in your stable of QBs, you can't just throw them in there, it's too demanding of a position for just anyone to play.
     
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    It wasn't snowing dude, Petty was shit that game plain and simple. Not going to hate on Petty, but just saying the tape was bad.

    RG3, like I mentioned, had a quick release and was accurate. Not to mention he had amazing speed.
     
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    Mariota actually played very well in his second pre season game. He had one mistake, that almost resulted in an interception, but he was making protection calls, didn't bail the pocket early like most rookie Quarterbacks, and he showed me that he has the explosiveness to escape elite NFL athletes, if need be. And he did look great under center, getting proper depth on his drops. He was able to evade Aaron Donald on a roll out and throw a beautiful "touch " pass for thirty-five years.

    He'll definitely have his struggles, but if I'm Ken Whisenhunt I'm going to go with the Quarterback with the most upside, who can potentially save my job, if he progresses and plays well this season. If the Titans have another terrible season, Whisenhunt gone IMO. I'm sure most coaches would perfer to sit their rookie Quarterbacks, but unfortunately unless your Bill Belichick or Pete Carroll you probably won't have the job security to sit a rookie QB for two seasons or so. A rookie coach, such as Bowles, would be able to get away with it, but a coach like Whisenhunt who went 2-14 can't afford to sit the best QB on his roster for a season.[/QUOTE]
     
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    One Quarterback was 22 and had a rocket arm, with very good accuracy (Petty is a low velocity thrower), elite athleticism and had the ability to succeed in and outside of the system. Petty's a twenty four year old, with back issues, who struggleed when teams were able to slow down Baylor's system.
     
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    Haha..I guess that couldn't have been too often as he threw for 8000 yards and 62 tds in the only two years he played. Oh and not that it matters but re ran for another 21 tds in those two years as well.
     
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  19. Chadchrebet

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    YUP!
     
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    Wow, I didn't know collegiate production translates to NFL success!
     

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