i say go double tights with either dressen/baker or jolley/baker or let cotchery take a shot at #2 slot
then please champ tell me what you meant when you said: Quote: Originally Posted by NYJets83 listen everyone has flaws or can look bad in certain videos, but you can ask ANYONE that is a scout and they will agree that d'brick is a blue chip LT prospect END OF DISCUSSION..... and i'm really curious champ, what wr at 4 should have we taken??? LMAO **Not a draftnik** but was not that TE available that everyone says is really a WR? You can take it to the bank that 3 years from now we all will be looking back at this pick with much regret. Just be patient & you will see it unfold right before your eyes.
I think Macarins could make a great second reciever if he had a good qb. It takes a special WR to have a good year with our quarterback situation last year. I think we should give him a break and see what he can do this year as our #2.
If Coles and Cotchery had been dropping balls conspicuously, you might have something of a point, 526. But otherwise, I think the case with JMac, and Jolley too, is that age-old NFL truism, if you can get your hands on it, you should be able to catch it, no matter who threw it.
I have to take issue with anyone who suggests that Bolly was the reason for McCareins sub par performance last year. In spite of Herm's Handcuff's Bolly did an admirable job last year. If anything McCareins compromised Bolly's performance. Like the last poster just pointed out - if you get your hands on it - you should come up with the catch. Had McCareins not dropped so many balls our offense might have rolled a little more. How much of a blow is it to a young QB with no line to have a WR keep on dropping sure catches? I root for McCareins this year as we have no where else to turn - but it is hard to give him a free pass for last year. At the WR position his performance is fairly easy to evaluate even on a bad team. Defenses weren't rolling extra defenders his way! He needed to be able to create separation against #2 corners and then make catches. He failed to do both last season - the latter being terribly noticeable.
I wasn't talking '04, I was talking last season. I spoke endlessly all of last season about JMac's lack of enthusiasm, so it's not like I am turning tail now on what I said. In '04, he had Moss opposite him, and Moss was downfield, way out of Penny's range, so naturally, JMac would have more chances, and as a result, more catches. Even a lazy player has to catch at least some of the passes that hit him in the chest. In '04 however, he did not show the laziness he did last year. In a losing season, he just put his head between his legs, kissed his ass goodbye, and went down with the ship. This is part of the reason I am willing to give him another chance to show me something this year. If it was an anomaly, due solely to the lack of talent on the field, and resulting record, then all can be forgiven. If he comes out playing half-assed football, I don't think we will need to boo him off the field, Mangini will take care of that himself. Don't misunderstand me. I want JMac to succeed. He and Coles can make a good one-two punch if he plays to his abililty. Throw Cotch in at the slot, and revolve the TEs, with the occasional dump to the RBs, and we have a potentially dynamic offense.
McCareins was definitely our best receiver in 04, but while I loved some of the game-changing plays he that season, I think that is a testament more to how badly Santana Moss played in 04. I liked McCareins a lot during that season, but he's going to need to step it up this year or he'll probably be relegated to the third position on the depth chart. I don't think this CS is going to be taking the 'wait and see' approach like Herm did, we'll see results or he'll see the bench.
Could you not have posted his name in the title of the thread like you're supposed to so we didn't have to waste our time reading a post about a boring, ineffective receiver?
I agree. JMac wasn't productive last year, but really, offensively, who was? This year either produce, or get out.
Yes it proves that in a mediocre league schedule and matchups matter almost as much as talent. The problem is eventually you meet up with talent no matter how easy the ride is.
if you're talking about mccareins in 04, then i can't say i agree with you....the way we played ball that year with hackett and our d and martin and herm and hurt chad, it would have been hard for any wr to put up huge numbers.....mccareins played pretty damn solid and bailed us out a lot of times (the cleveland game comes to mind)....05 was a diff story, but hopefully he can bounce back
I only meant in terms of the stat that he wasn't in the top 30 in league WRs. I like JMac. I was incredibly disappointed and angry last year at his play, but all in all, I think he has the talent. As I said, if last year was an anomaly, then all is forgiven. If by October, we are still having this conversation, it's time to send him packing.
Tons of football stats are overrated. Check out the Cardinals receiver stats of 2005. Compare them to the 2004 Jets receivers stats. Then compare the records of those two teams.
Arizona was dead last in rushing and 29th in turnovers last year. Good running teams that don't turn the ball over can beat most of the mediocre NFL teams. You need to be able to threaten a good NFL D in order to advance deep into the playoffs.
