And the funny thing is McCareins was known as a deep threat in Tennessee. Problem was Pennington couldn't throw deep consistently and Hackett fears the deep ball.
We had a great running game that moved the chains constantly in 04. While that doesn't generate alot of points it runs down the clock and keeps their defense on the field. That's one of the biggest reasons JMac didn't break the top 30. Our conservative play of Hackett is more to blame than the player. Also, Santana Moss was injured with a pulled hamstring the first half of the 04 season, so basically Jmac was the #1 receiver. Last year, yes I admit JMac drop quite a few passes that would have moved the chains and kept the drive alive. He also had several passes to him batted away because of a lack of velocity and/or accuracy so you can't blame him for all of the Jets Offensive problems. I still think he can be an effective #2 receiver, he has a knack for getting open and has good speed. In game 2 against the Dolphins he would have easily streaked down the sideline for a touchdown had Pennington not thrown a duck to him. He's also big and a good run blocker which will help us sweep the left side. He just needs to get his confidence up and catch with his hands and not with his body. I think he'll be fine in '06. Cheers
JMac was a none factor the first half of 04 and as you pointed out Moss couldn't run because of his ham string. Sounds like Hackett wasn't to blame at all he did what he had to do for us to win. McCariens was a deep threat in TN because he was the 4th option and was being covered by a safety when he was in the game.
I'm willing to give McCareins one more year before I label him a bust. If the Jets find a QB who can throw it deep it will help McCareins.
Sure, I get your point. I meant for the people wondering why Jmac was not in the top 30 in receiving is because of Hackett's plan. Not knocking it because he did do what he had to do. But he also was a guy who wouldn't learn new tricks. You can only play fake to the FB so many times before the D catches on.
If only Bradway gave Coles his contract, we would never be having this conversation. Coles and Moss would have been crazy.
McCareins has been in the league for 5 years now -- He is what he is. A marginal #2 WR and a decent #3 WR -- nothing more nothing less. A couple of tough catches down the stretch in 2004 doesn't make a good year or "show potential". He was a 4th round pick in 2001 for a reason and unfortunately the Jets gave a 2nd rounder for him. Tennessee had a choice to keep either him or Drew Bennett and they chose Bennett...which should have said something at the time. Regardless, he'll, most likely, be a starter in 2006. Since my expectations of him are so low, anything he does beyond a couple of catches a game and one tough catch every few games will be gravy. I would imagine a line in 2006 much like his first two years with the Jets -- 50 catches, 700 yards, 4 TDs Ohh...and god forbid he returns one punt this year
He was last sighted buying oranges at the Richie Kotite and Rick Mirer owned Two Dicks Orange Stand in Lakeland, Florida.
I seem to remeber in 02 when we had 3 good WR and a backfield that the offense opened it up pretty good. That was also under Hackett.
yeah i think im with you on this, McCareins is best suited as a slot reciever where he then becomes a mismatch for Safeties/weaker corners. using his body while catching in the middle of the field to block out defenders. he tries to do it on the outside and cant get open or catch with his hands. I think we pretty much just bit on a system player who had a good year. giving a 2nd rder for him is something that should be talked about alot more. just an excerpt from a writeup on NFL.com "McCareins was the Titans' second-leading receiver last season, finishing with 47 catches for 813 yards and seven touchdowns, including a 49-yard scoring reception against New York in December. In exchange for McCareins, the Titans received the 42nd pick in next month's draft." people attack robertson far more, which is funny to me. lets look at players selected in picks 43-63 in that second rd. now hindsight is 20/20 but for anyone who would criticize D-Rob and support McCareins should look. 43 Dallas Julius Jones RB Notre Dame 44 Indianapolis Bob Sanders FS Iowa 45 Oakland Jake Grove C Virginia Tech 46 San Francisco Justin Smiley G Alabama 47 Chicago Tank Johnson DT Washington 48 Minnesota Dontarrious Thomas OLB Auburn 49 Cincinnati Keiwan Ratliff CB Florida 50 New Orleans Devery Henderson WR Louisiana State 51 Baltimore Dwan Edwards DT Oregon State 52 Dallas Jacob Rogers T Southern California 53 Seattle Michael Boulware SS Florida State 54 Denver Darius Watts WR Marshall 55 Jacksonville Greg Jones FB Florida State 56 Cincinnati Madieu Williams FS Maryland 57 Tennessee Antwan Odom DE Alabama 58 San Francisco Shawntae Spencer CB Pittsburgh 59 Cleveland Sean Jones SS Georgia 60 New Orleans Courtney Watson MLB Notre Dame 61 Kansas City Kris Wilson TE Pittsburgh 62 Carolina Keary Colbert WR Southern California 63 New England Marquise Hill DE Louisiana State ill give him this yr before i pass my final judgement but as of now Cotchery would probably be my #2 reciever if it were up to me, if anything it would only make McCareins better by putting him in the slot.
But can't you could say the same thing of any tall third-string WR, Coach? I guess I'm just having difficulty or a senior moment trying to remember what JMac did in '04 that was so special to make people still believe in him after '05. He and Jolley played their way off the team in my view.
I know what u mean because that is the prototype for a slot reciever, but my point was he does it well against nickelbacks and safeties running routes scripted to get him open across the middle/inside of the field and he cant do it while having less space on the outside as a #2 reciever. as far as Jolley goes I'll give him a pass. he was solid enough in OAK but isnt much of a blocker. in 4 yrs he's avg'd around 325 yds a year while starting in only 32 out of 63 games. unless dressen is looking phenomonal theres no reason him and baker cant compete. ill wait for things to unfold, im not expecting much but we'll see.
I hear you, but I'd rather have a #3 guy who has the potential for becoming a #2 reciever than one who has already proven himself incapable of that role.
Something did occur in the mini-camps as stated below. Jets | B. Smith injured Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:27:06 -0700 New York Jets WR Brad Smith (unknown) has a minor injury, but does not appear to be serious. "It's just one of those, just one of those things that we're monitoring, more bumps and bruises," said Jets head coach Eric Mangini. Unfortunately, with Mangini this could either be an in-grown toe nail or a broken skull leading to pressure on the brain and memory loss.... :smile:
yah honestly, i dont like the fact he had to talk like Foghorn Leghorn when asked this question "i said, i said, i said, the boys hurtin . but its not no, not no reason to be worried"
