They were at the edge of FG range before the penalty, and Lindell made of 52 yards going the other direction, which tells you the wind was against them. If you decline the penalty you surrender 3 points, so I give Mangini credit for not doing that. I said so at the time even though they got the first down. You have to show confidence in your players to stop a 3rd and 13 and you have to show some guts. In my opinion Mangini did both and ultimately it was a 10 point swing in our favor, in a game we won by 9.
I thought the worst coaching decision made yesterday was when Moorman ran the fake punt and Mangini declined the holding penalty without finding out if the spot was bad by looking up at the damned Jumbotron. I would have taken the penalty just to avoid the chance that the spot could be overturned, it was clearly very close. It was a bad pressure call and it could have killed us because it kept their drive alive. I wanted to smash this Bills fan in the face when he was laughing this snide laugh and nodding his head at me. I gave him the snide laugh and nod when Revis picked Edwards off at the end, though.
If I'm not mistaken the Jets had the ability to accept the penalty after the spot was overturned on replay and then the Bills punted. You accept or decline based on the call on the field, if they change it you get to choose again. I could be wrong but I don't think so, Buffalo punted. To me the bad part was getting duped on a fake punt to the right for the second time in three games. A great move was Leon fielding the kickoff with a foot out of bounds giving us the ball at the 40. Either he's incredibly smart or well coached, because nobody knew that rule. I started cursing him for making such a boneheaded move, thinking we were going to be pinned back deep.
You're right because they overturned the call on the field giving them the spot for the first down and then reapplied the penalty. I had no idea that was a rule about standing out of bounds and grabbing the ball on a kickoff. It seems like a stupid rule, but I'm glad Leon was smart enough to take advantage.
That sounds right, looks like I got ahead of myself. Truly what I remember is be angry and having to piss while they were reviewing the spot, so I ran to the head and Moorman had just punted when I got back.
I never knew of that rule. It looked like some of the refs didn't know it either. That was a REAL smart play by Leon.
I was realy pissed off when they ran the fake punt and made it, just two weeks after Oakland did the same thing to the same side. Good thing for that penalty.
I actually called the damn fake on that play, too. Probably luck, but it was the way the players were approaching the line that made me think of it and the memory of that stupid damned fake punt in Oakland.
That fake punt was a ballsy decision and really a bad decision. The Bills got lucky, if it wasn't for Moormans footwork keeping him inbounds for the extra yard needed the Jets are taking over inside the Bills 30 yard line in a close game. Moorman saved Jauron's ass on that play or he would be getting killed this week. As for the topic of this thread, I have no problem with the call. The call was fine, Favre needs to know better in that situation, that is the only outcome the Jets couldn't afford in that situation. Throw the damn ball into the second row please.
