Braylon is a beast and deserves to still be a jet 100% But everyone seems to be hanging holmes out to dry due to the position he is taking on money this offseason. I dont remeber everyone hanging revis out to dry last season when he was an even bigger douche about money last year. Anyone can post a stat that will support wich reciever is the better choice but bottom line is holmes put up almost as many yards and TD's as braylon in 4 and a half less games then braylon. If it was up to me with certain WR's that have express an intrest in playing for Rex, Braylon (depending on how low of asalary he will sign for) is an easier reciever to replace. Now Personaly i dont believe Holmes will be the reciever we keep even more so now with the new gambeling violation popping its ugly head up. Ideal situation would be to keep both reciever and dropping Cromartie, Smith and kyle stepping up to the plate like a first round draft pick should. Then again im a newb so flame away
there is a huge difference here... Revis is the best player in the league at his position (and quite possibly the best defensive player overall) Holmes is not. Secondly there was a ton of people who wanted to trade Revis on the board... Thirdly we had nothing and I do mean nothing else to work with last offseason if we would have allowed Revis to leave. Behind Cro we had nothing. K-Dub clearly wasnt ready to be a starter yet, and nobody would have wanted Drew Coleman out there on the outside against a #2 all season long... With Holmes, we have other options (assuming Braylon is back). WR is a bit of a luxury position for a run first team. And there is still quite the collection of people who want Holmes to return, myself included. Holmes is a great receiver, but he is not a top 10 WR and possibly not top 15. If memory serves, the top 100 (as voted by NFL players) he was the 16th best receiver but I could be wrong... That doesnt mean I don't want him back, because I absolutely do want him and Braylon back. I want them back more than Cromartie, and more than Harris. Those two are only going to allow Sanchez to become the best he can be. Which is why I think they are more important than bringing back either one of our two defensive studs. Also I disagree Braylon would be easier to replace... the day we let Keyshawn go, we didnt have another big tall physical receiver like him until we brought in Braylon to replace him in the middle of 2008. Guys like this don't just come around everyday. when you throw in the fact he relishes blocking for the team and is an incredible team first guy, he is one of a kind. Its nearly impossible to replace everything braylon brings to the table for us. Not that it would be easy to replace the game changing ability Holmes has either, but it sure is easier to find a 5'11'' guy with great speed and quickness than it is to find a 6'3'' physical deep threat that is the best blocker on the team...
Holmes is the best Jets reciever i have seen in my life time. He came in first year with a mediocore QB and formed excelent timing and chemistry with not only sanchez but the offense in whole. He turned many lost games around for us last year and served far more imporatance to us then most memebers of this board seem to want to give him credit for. After last years results with sanchez its a garuntee that he will be even better this year and will be a key to getting to the super bowl. I will be very sad if/when we give him up. The top 100 is a crock from missing names to people who didnt deserve to be ranked as high or as low. Its like they almost got the list right but were to hung over to order them properly. I defer to my original statements about holmes for being the harder option to replace. And add that there are a handfull of big go get it recievers there are in free agency braylon is not that hard to replace short of his amazing blocking skills and ethics. PS When we dumped Keyshawn he didnt want to be here anymore and there really werent the amount of options there are now. I really hope all ends well and we keep both but if its a choice i hope we choose santonio
We ar eprimarily a GROUND & POUND team. HOLMES doe snot help with his poor blocking. Edwards is a great blocker. It makes more sense to sign EDWARDS! He can go deep when asked and did not drop passes like HOLMES did last year. Look at the GREEN BAY game !
Last year holmes dropped more passes then braylon. Last year is probably the only year that stat holds true. Braylons first year with us was not very pretty. He dropped tons of easy catches. I once again repeat even though he had more drops then him last year, holmes still got almost as many yards and tds. Im also tired of this "ground and pound" mentality. We dont have top level RB's to be this type of team. Just like last year showed if we can put the ball in the air more effectivly MORE SO in the red zone then guess what we will be short of a SB apperence again. I may be crazy but i believe it was holmes 90% of the time that demanded top CB coverage. Leaving braylong with the DB left overs.
Last year around this time a lot of people were getting on DR for his holdout. A lot were pissed off. Who can forget the amount of times we saw Mevi$ used? Ahh man I'm so glad that's over with. Anyway I've been a big supporter since Edwards got here and want to see him resigned. I know what Holmes brings tothe table but I think a lot of what Braylon brings to us gets overshadowed. If we lose Holmes, resign Braylon and sign a veteran FA wr we don't really fall off that much at the WR position. Still we have Braylon, Cotch, Keller, Kerley, whoever we may sign then LT and McKnight coming out of backfield.
Apologize for the double post here but I wanted to re-watch the highlights to this game and 5:51 is why I want Braylon back bad. [YOUTUBE]4dGuqIHXsZk[/YOUTUBE] You tell me the last time the Jets had a wr, this big that could make plays like that.
I'm not buying that the Jets won't pursuit Braylon they would be insane not to. IMO Braylon is more important to this team than Holmes.
I think it's telling that with the season on the line in Indy, Sanchez went to Schotty and lobbied to run a play to Edwards.
Agreed, all you have to do is look at the polls here and million other threads on this, and the result is pretty much the same time and time again. BE might not be as talented as SH, but for me he becomes the better player because of his attitude towards the club and the fact he got 'rescued' from the Browns. Not that SH has a bad attitude
IMO, the staff is prioritizing SH because they think Jeff Cumberland can replace BE's role as the big physical blocking receiver. I know, I know, he is listed as a TE but a guy who is 6'4" 250lbs and runs a 4.45 is very intriguing. There was a tweet from Jenny Vrentas last year in Nov that Cumberland said he moved to WR. If there is a pre-season this year I'd like to see what he could do out there.
You seriously wants braylon back because he caught a jump ball over Jacob Lacey? This is a joke right? That guy like like 5"8 170lbs? I get the whole he played hard blocked great and wants to be a jets thing but me being a Jets fan really wants us in a SB. The bottom line is Holmes is our #1 reciever and without him demanding #1 DB coverage braylon doesnt make half the catches he did this year. Face it guys there is a reason santonio was targeted 15 more times then braylon and ended the season with 1 less reception almost as many yards and 1 less TD in 4 AND A HALF LESS GAMES! There are a handfull of tall go get it recievers up for grabs this year and NO RECIEVERS that you can put in the same class as santonio. If we get rid of holmes we are gonna end up with a reciever who will NOT demand #1 DB coverage and braylon will go back to the weaker stats of 2009 and we dont make the SB AGAIN! We had the smarts to make sure we did what was need to sign our #1 defensive player and i have faith that we will do the same for our #1 offensive player.
Tanny and rex aren't stupid. Braylon IS the better receiver and better value. He won't raise a big fuss about a huge contract or being the highest paid guy, because he already got his big contract when he came in the league and knows how much it sucked to be exiled on a bad team/city that hated him. He's also the better blocker, and the more unique threat because of his size. He dropped the least balls out of ALL the jet receivers. Santonio dropped quite a bit, and some at crucial times. He's also less of a risk than santonio because he only has 1 strike against him, as opposed to the two santonio has.
Ever think that Braylon was the one who drew the double coverage and that's why holmes was targeted more?
oh really? So you're able to see who's doubled on each play with limited camera angles at full speed? Yet you didn't see Braylon carry most of the load for the offense, along with keller, during the first 4 games? Who was drawing all the doubles then, Jco? Or how about Braylon dragging mccourty and merriweather into the end zone during the pats game? Or his 40+ yard play against the texans that got them to the 3 or 4 yard line at the end of the game? I guess when you saw the games, you also would notice that santonio dropped a ton of balls, and braylon dropped almost none. You probably also saw that Braylon was THE deep threat, and had more long TD's and catches than anybody on the team. fuckin clueless newbs. wish IJR was around because there'd already be a JdotGriff thread in the TT forum
