Why the Jets should not draft Defense tonight...get a WR! Rex's one sided affair!

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  1. BakerMaker

    BakerMaker Well-Known Member

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    You must be the same guy who said the same thing about Keenan Allen last year when he got taken in round 3 that he was "average" because he lasted this long.

    Let the draft finish before judging them at least. If they neglect the WR/CB/TE spots, then fans have every right to be disgruntled but we needed a safety and this safety class is kind of thin, especially the way round 1 went. Teams recognize this.
     
  2. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    So..at this point in time we have Milliner covering Watkins twice a year? Maybe we need some more defense anyway.
     
  3. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

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    Actually I was probably one of the only ones on here who said Allen was a 1st round talent. We'll see how it plays out but we need a WR, CB, TE more than we needed a safety. Craig Loston would've been more than adequate in the 2nd or 3rd round. This draft picks highlights an institutional philosophy that this team employs with Ryan at its helm. And that philosophy hasn't worked so well going on 4 years now. The Jets act like they have a top 3 defense and they don't. This was just another toy that Johnson wanted to give to Ryan. It totally neglected more pressing areas that should've been addressed first.
     
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    Wake me up when EJ Manuel actually does something in the league.
     
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  5. MikeSLTJ23

    MikeSLTJ23 Well-Known Member

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    Yup, because having safety help over the top won't help :rolleyes:
     
  6. MikeSLTJ23

    MikeSLTJ23 Well-Known Member

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    This thread makes me hate Jets fans.
     
  7. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    If you think Watkins can be dismissed so easily I think you are in for a rude surprise.
     
  8. MikeSLTJ23

    MikeSLTJ23 Well-Known Member

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    If you think drafting a CB in the first round strictly because the Bills got Watkins is a good idea, you understand the concept of building a team less than I thought.
     
  9. JetsFan

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    Under Rex our Defense has always been the stronger half of the team and the offense pathetic at best. So as normal we spend another 1st round pick on the defense when our WR/TE core is probably the worst in the NFL even with Decker. Decker is not fast or a #1 WR on any team except for the Jets. He will crumble when double teamed and cemented between a CB and safety.

    The best thing that could happen is we get Jace Amaro in the 2nd round. He can catch and block, and would greatly help the Jets.
     
  10. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Not at all, I am just saying I think we need another CB before the season starts. We were near the bottom in pass defense last year and our CBs aren't any better now and the competition has improved in Buffalo, Miami and NE. Drafting a safety isn't going to fix that.
     
  11. MikeSLTJ23

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    The competition for a CB has improved in Buffalo, not Miami or NE. We needed a safety just as much as we needed a CB. You also don't draft strictly for need. I bet if Fuller were there at 18, he was our guy. He wasn't there, and I guess they didn't think Dennard was good enough, or they would have taken him. If they think Pryor improves our team the most of any other player available at 18, I'll be a FO homer and take their word for it. Milliner did come on down the stretch last year. In fact, he looked elite down the stretch. Not saying that makes him an elite player or he will be elite, but I'm hoping they see something in him. I'd put money on Milliner being better than every CB in FA this year save for maybe 1 or 2.
     
  12. MaximusD163

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    Actually, it will really help. Pryor will be excellent in blowing up bubble screens (one of Watkins' most effective plays) and he has the range and ability to help cover deep. We have two versatile safeties now, and we may see Landry go in training camp although I suppose he could stick around. Antonio Allen will probably be a combo box safety with man coverage responsibilities on TE's, and Pryor will play farther back, reading the play and retreating into coverage or flying up to make a big hit. Pryor will quickly become the best safety we've had under Rex Ryan, and that includes our 1 year stint with LaRon Landry.
     
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  13. MikeSLTJ23

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    Watkins, Evans, and Beckham were not available (and thank God on Beckham...I wanted nothing to do with him). Since our pick so far, we've missed out on Cooks and Benjamin. I'm disappointed about Cooks because I think he wants to be great and has that kind of potential, but he's not necessarily head and shoulders above Lee, Matthews, Latimer, Robinson, Adams, etc. There's so much depth at WR that hopefully we land a very good one in Round 2 or Round 3. We got arguably the best safety in the draft, as opposed to a player who was arguably the 3rd or 4th best WR when there are so many high ceiling players left. Only one I'm disappointed about is Cooks. I'll be disappointed if I see Lee, Matthews, Latimer, and Robinson all get taken before the Jets (or if the Jets pass on one of those guys the 2nd time around).

    There's nothing wrong with having an awesome young defense. Almost every team has holes. Our happens to be at WR and CB right now for the most part. Safety was another sore spot, but this will hopefully put an end to that.
     
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    Q) Any chance we make a move on Stevie Johnson from Buffalo?
     
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    We need to score points and if we dont make a move in the second round we will miss out on both wr and cb. I have a feeling there is going to be a run in receivers starting after Washington, who may be willing to deal in order to get some extra picks. I like desir at cb

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    All in all I see us taking Lamir from Indiana.
     
  17. NCJetsfan

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    I was totally with you up to your last two paragraphs. Well, at least we didn't take a CB last night. We definitely needed a FS. The problem will be however, if the Jets don't use Pryor at FS, and instead let Landry continue to play there. In that scenario, I think the 1st round pick was basically wasted. Allen was developing into a nice player. Jarrett played well in spots and is a decent backup at SS. Landry is a JAG.

    The pick should have been Cooks imo. It sickens me to think of the offense NO will have with Brees, Graham, Colston, Cooks and others and to think of what might have been with the Jets.

    I despise Rex and they can't fire his dumb ass soon enough to suit me.

    As for Geno, no, it's not a given that he will be the answer. Evidently, the Jets have seen enough in him to believe that he is, or unless Rex has more control over the draft than we realize, surely Idzik, if he's as smart as he seems to be, would have done something (traded down or traded back up to Seattle's spot) to get either Bridgewater or Carr last night.

    If the Jets take a CB in the 2nd round tonight. my head will probably explode. I've seen enough stupidity from the Jets' owners and GMs to last 2-3 lifetimes, and taking a CB rather than a WR or TE in round 2 would be moronic imo. Even taking Attaochu, whom I would love to see on the Jets probably would not make me happy. I want Matthews, ASJ, Lee or Adams in the 2nd round, and if they go with the WR rather than ASJ, I want Niklas (if he's still there) in the 3rd or Fiedorowicz.
     
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  18. JStokes

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    Lol I read that quickly as us taking Samir from India. Opening up a call center.

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  19. NCJetsfan

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    You're wrong on this. The Jets only have one FS on the roster, Bush, and he's awful. Landry is NOT a FS, even though that freaking dumbass Rex thinks he is. Unless the Jets re-sign Ed Reed, Pryor is now our best bet at FS. I'd take him as a raw rookie over that slow JAG Landry or Allen.
     
  20. NCJetsfan

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    No it isn't. Amaro cannot block. I'd rather have Marcel Jensen or Crockett Gillmore than Amaro, but I'd really rather have ASJ, Niklas or Fiedorowicz. All three of those guys can catch and block.
     

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